Comments on: Lowering fees — and infuriating colleagues? http://overlawyered.com/2007/01/lowering-fees-and-infuriating-colleagues/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=lowering-fees-and-infuriating-colleagues Chronicling the high cost of our legal system Sun, 27 May 2012 03:58:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Ted http://overlawyered.com/2007/01/lowering-fees-and-infuriating-colleagues/comment-page-1/#comment-5627 Ted Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:14:32 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/wpblog/?p=4457#comment-5627 <i>I mean, can you imagine any of the white shoe firms beating each other up over fees: "We'll beat their price by $75 an hour!"</i> Yes, not least because I saw such price competition regularly, especially from big potential clients like insurers that cared more about the blended rate than the likely total cost of representation. I mean, can you imagine any of the white shoe firms beating each other up over fees: “We’ll beat their price by $75 an hour!”

Yes, not least because I saw such price competition regularly, especially from big potential clients like insurers that cared more about the blended rate than the likely total cost of representation.

]]> By: southladybug http://overlawyered.com/2007/01/lowering-fees-and-infuriating-colleagues/comment-page-1/#comment-5626 southladybug Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:47:21 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/wpblog/?p=4457#comment-5626 As someone who will have ongoing medical issues for the rest of my life, more of the recovery in my pocket would be nice. At least he is pro active. And I would go to him, especially if he can do it without having to go to trial, and recover over ten grand. As someone who will have ongoing medical issues for the rest of my life, more of the recovery in my pocket would be nice.

At least he is pro active.
And I would go to him, especially if he can do it without having to go to trial, and recover over ten grand.

]]> By: Todd Rogers http://overlawyered.com/2007/01/lowering-fees-and-infuriating-colleagues/comment-page-1/#comment-5625 Todd Rogers Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:47:44 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/wpblog/?p=4457#comment-5625 What's that I hear? The sound of market forces penetrating the seemingly impregnable walls of contingency fees? Perhaps those who are strongly opposed to a free-price system fee arrangement are really just reeling from the slap of Adam Smith's invisible hand? What’s that I hear? The sound of market forces penetrating the seemingly impregnable walls of contingency fees? Perhaps those who are strongly opposed to a free-price system fee arrangement are really just reeling from the slap of Adam Smith’s invisible hand?

]]> By: TC http://overlawyered.com/2007/01/lowering-fees-and-infuriating-colleagues/comment-page-1/#comment-5624 TC Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:26:01 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/wpblog/?p=4457#comment-5624 Motel 6 is flourishing! It was pretty daaumed tough selling a 40$ hotel room against a guy next door who sold his for $24.95! There are so many attorneys out there now price may as well start becoming a draw! I've paid high end fees and received low end results! I've paid high end fees and gotten my moneys worth as well. But the rate you pay has nothing to do with the level of lawyer you will get! It's basically a crap shoot! Actually lawyers should start thinking about priceline.com! Motel 6 is flourishing!

It was pretty daaumed tough selling a 40$ hotel room against a guy next door who sold his for $24.95!

There are so many attorneys out there now price may as well start becoming a draw! I’ve paid high end fees and received low end results!

I’ve paid high end fees and gotten my moneys worth as well.

But the rate you pay has nothing to do with the level of lawyer you will get!

It’s basically a crap shoot!

Actually lawyers should start thinking about priceline.com!

]]> By: Justinian Lane http://overlawyered.com/2007/01/lowering-fees-and-infuriating-colleagues/comment-page-1/#comment-5623 Justinian Lane Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:46:32 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/wpblog/?p=4457#comment-5623 A few years ago when I lived in Vegas, there was some new PI attorney who advertised 19% rates, and ran a ton of commericals about how great he was for not taking 1/3rd. Since I don't live there anymore, I have no idea if it worked out or not. While I have no objection to a lawyer lowering his contingent fees, I do wonder if a race to the bottom is really the way to go. I mean, can you imagine any of the white shoe firms beating each other up over fees: "We'll beat their price by $75 an hour!" As I've noted before, if I ever need a lawyer, I'll judge him or her on the basis of experience, and not race, gender, or price. A few years ago when I lived in Vegas, there was some new PI attorney who advertised 19% rates, and ran a ton of commericals about how great he was for not taking 1/3rd. Since I don’t live there anymore, I have no idea if it worked out or not.

While I have no objection to a lawyer lowering his contingent fees, I do wonder if a race to the bottom is really the way to go. I mean, can you imagine any of the white shoe firms beating each other up over fees: “We’ll beat their price by $75 an hour!”

As I’ve noted before, if I ever need a lawyer, I’ll judge him or her on the basis of experience, and not race, gender, or price.

]]> By: michael walsh http://overlawyered.com/2007/01/lowering-fees-and-infuriating-colleagues/comment-page-1/#comment-5622 michael walsh Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:45:19 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/wpblog/?p=4457#comment-5622 It will be interesting to see how he does. We don't do personal injury cases any more, because we generally couldn't attract extremely large valued cases, and at 30%, our fees in the smaller cases weren't even enough to cover case costs and payroll expenses. After a couple of quarters taking losses, we moved on to better work. Of course, if you take very small settlements that let you wrap up a case without doing much work, the business model can succeed, but your clients unknowingly pocket less than they would with a higher priced lawyer who handled the case properly. It will be interesting to see how he does. We don’t do personal injury cases any more, because we generally couldn’t attract extremely large valued cases, and at 30%, our fees in the smaller cases weren’t even enough to cover case costs and payroll expenses. After a couple of quarters taking losses, we moved on to better work. Of course, if you take very small settlements that let you wrap up a case without doing much work, the business model can succeed, but your clients unknowingly pocket less than they would with a higher priced lawyer who handled the case properly.

]]> By: cowpill http://overlawyered.com/2007/01/lowering-fees-and-infuriating-colleagues/comment-page-1/#comment-5621 cowpill Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:12:15 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/wpblog/?p=4457#comment-5621 If you think about it; it is very smart economics, Wal-Mart has learned it well. If you have the lowest price,people will come and have a better impresion of lawyers and their job. If you think about it; it is very smart economics, Wal-Mart has learned it well. If you have the lowest price,people will come and have a better impresion of lawyers and their job.

]]> By: Guest http://overlawyered.com/2007/01/lowering-fees-and-infuriating-colleagues/comment-page-1/#comment-5620 Guest Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:19:27 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/wpblog/?p=4457#comment-5620 He may not become popular with other lawyers but it's definitely a nice change. It's somewhat naive to think it's not in his self interest though for him to do this since I'm sure this will noticeably increase the number of possible clients for him. He may not become popular with other lawyers but it’s definitely a nice change. It’s somewhat naive to think it’s not in his self interest though for him to do this since I’m sure this will noticeably increase the number of possible clients for him.

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