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	<title>Comments on: Update: English-only cheesesteak ordering</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Lincoln</title>
		<link>http://overlawyered.com/2008/03/update-english-only-cheesesteak-ordering/comment-page-1/#comment-11295</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debra, I think the people are working there possibly because they are illegal aliens, so the employer gets one heck of a deal (about taxes, paperwork, etc).  Maybe the head of the auto parts store chain, for example, has never experienced the frustration that the customers do.  I have told one auto parts chain that I would not come back, as the signs for the aisle had Spanish all over them - I don&#039;t need that (don&#039;t forget to fill out a comment card and mail it in.).

Even if that employee were a legal immigrant, firing them may be a lawsuit waiting to happen - just look at what happens when you are just trying to sell cheesesteaks, for example!

Your example about tourism is not a good comparison.  I have no problem helping a foreign tourist using hand signals, etc., but I&#039;ll be danged if I&#039;m gonna speak Spanish to a Mexican who calls America &quot;home&quot;.

Lastly, why would they fire you for not learning your students&#039; parents&#039; foreign languages?  This is America; you are not in the 20-odd foreign countries.  You make no sense.

Yeah, try voting in the next Mexican election, Debra, in English.  Good luck with all that.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debra, I think the people are working there possibly because they are illegal aliens, so the employer gets one heck of a deal (about taxes, paperwork, etc).  Maybe the head of the auto parts store chain, for example, has never experienced the frustration that the customers do.  I have told one auto parts chain that I would not come back, as the signs for the aisle had Spanish all over them &#8211; I don&#8217;t need that (don&#8217;t forget to fill out a comment card and mail it in.).</p>
<p>Even if that employee were a legal immigrant, firing them may be a lawsuit waiting to happen &#8211; just look at what happens when you are just trying to sell cheesesteaks, for example!</p>
<p>Your example about tourism is not a good comparison.  I have no problem helping a foreign tourist using hand signals, etc., but I&#8217;ll be danged if I&#8217;m gonna speak Spanish to a Mexican who calls America &#8220;home&#8221;.</p>
<p>Lastly, why would they fire you for not learning your students&#8217; parents&#8217; foreign languages?  This is America; you are not in the 20-odd foreign countries.  You make no sense.</p>
<p>Yeah, try voting in the next Mexican election, Debra, in English.  Good luck with all that.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra</title>
		<link>http://overlawyered.com/2008/03/update-english-only-cheesesteak-ordering/comment-page-1/#comment-11294</link>
		<dc:creator>Debra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to the comment above, clearly these businesses do not do worse overall due to non-English speaking employees or they would not employ them. People who do not speak English well still spend money and need salespeople who can communicate with them. I am an Language Arts teacher in Texas (starting law school in Fall) and I am unable to  speak the VARIOUS languages of my students&#039; parents....clearly, I would not want to be fired for that. Also, other countries  accommodate American travelers, business people, and students who only speak English.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the comment above, clearly these businesses do not do worse overall due to non-English speaking employees or they would not employ them. People who do not speak English well still spend money and need salespeople who can communicate with them. I am an Language Arts teacher in Texas (starting law school in Fall) and I am unable to  speak the VARIOUS languages of my students&#8217; parents&#8230;.clearly, I would not want to be fired for that. Also, other countries  accommodate American travelers, business people, and students who only speak English.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Attorney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous Attorney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like an economist to conduct a study of the cost of the ineffeciencies of having to conduct business in several different languages. For instance, if you add up all the seconds spent waiting through the &quot;Press two for Spanish,&quot; how much lost opportunity is that? Or all the wasted time on the phone with non-English or barely-English speakers who can&#039;t understand what you&#039;re saying, and vice-versa? I can actually point to several instances in my own life where a store&#039;s employee, because they did not speak English, could not understand what I was asking for and nearly dropped the sale as a result (I know the store had the item because I pressed the issue with an English speaker). These folks never seem to push me toward a sale or a clear communicator because it makes no difference to them -- they get paid, and don&#039;t have to deal with a customer. But obviously, the business does worse, overall.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like an economist to conduct a study of the cost of the ineffeciencies of having to conduct business in several different languages. For instance, if you add up all the seconds spent waiting through the &#8220;Press two for Spanish,&#8221; how much lost opportunity is that? Or all the wasted time on the phone with non-English or barely-English speakers who can&#8217;t understand what you&#8217;re saying, and vice-versa? I can actually point to several instances in my own life where a store&#8217;s employee, because they did not speak English, could not understand what I was asking for and nearly dropped the sale as a result (I know the store had the item because I pressed the issue with an English speaker). These folks never seem to push me toward a sale or a clear communicator because it makes no difference to them &#8212; they get paid, and don&#8217;t have to deal with a customer. But obviously, the business does worse, overall.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Lincoln</title>
		<link>http://overlawyered.com/2008/03/update-english-only-cheesesteak-ordering/comment-page-1/#comment-11292</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point, Richard!  Logic like that is also very offensive to those types of people - the &quot;critics&quot; I mean.  Your use of sharp logic is so typical of the western imperialistic white male oppressors!

Keep up the good work!


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point, Richard!  Logic like that is also very offensive to those types of people &#8211; the &#8220;critics&#8221; I mean.  Your use of sharp logic is so typical of the western imperialistic white male oppressors!</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Nieporent</title>
		<link>http://overlawyered.com/2008/03/update-english-only-cheesesteak-ordering/comment-page-1/#comment-11291</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Nieporent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Critics alleged that the policy discourages customers of certain backgrounds from eating there. They say the signs discourage non-English speakers from going to the shop.&lt;/i&gt;

Really? Just how would these non-English speakers know what the sign said?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Critics alleged that the policy discourages customers of certain backgrounds from eating there. They say the signs discourage non-English speakers from going to the shop.</i></p>
<p>Really? Just how would these non-English speakers know what the sign said?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Kolakowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Kolakowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pats is better anyways
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pats is better anyways</p>
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