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	<title>Comments on: No, honey, nothing special happened today (II)</title>
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		<title>By: Todd Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the insight.  I&#039;ve never played the lottery and frankly never really thought about it very much.  This guy is still a jackass and I imagine he&#039;s going to have to make regular visits to a proctologist for the rest of his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the insight.  I&#8217;ve never played the lottery and frankly never really thought about it very much.  This guy is still a jackass and I imagine he&#8217;s going to have to make regular visits to a proctologist for the rest of his life.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Posner: Dead on. Also include, of course, the matter of interest. The nominal $16 million is what some some might acrue after 20 years of compounded interest. 

As a rule of thumb, cash takehome on a lump sum win is 1/4 of the amount. 

$19m/17 participants = $1.12m
$1.12m divided by 2 for cash-payment = $.559,000. 
$559,000 divided by 2 for taxes = $279,000 takehome

Of course, due to his bad behavior, &lt;em&gt;his&lt;/em&gt; takehome is likely to be in the negative numbers as his wife will likely get the lion&#039;s share and he&#039;ll get stuck with costs and legal bills.

Being a douchebag doesn&#039;t always pay off...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Posner: Dead on. Also include, of course, the matter of interest. The nominal $16 million is what some some might acrue after 20 years of compounded interest. </p>
<p>As a rule of thumb, cash takehome on a lump sum win is 1/4 of the amount. </p>
<p>$19m/17 participants = $1.12m<br />
$1.12m divided by 2 for cash-payment = $.559,000.<br />
$559,000 divided by 2 for taxes = $279,000 takehome</p>
<p>Of course, due to his bad behavior, <em>his</em> takehome is likely to be in the negative numbers as his wife will likely get the lion&#8217;s share and he&#8217;ll get stuck with costs and legal bills.</p>
<p>Being a douchebag doesn&#8217;t always pay off&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Poser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Poser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd Rogers:

Uh, think about, how could the governments be reducing the BEFORE TAXES payout? What do you think the government takes that is not tax? I&#039;m pretty sure the real reason for the disparity between the nominal $1.11 million and the $600,000 is that the $1.11 million figure is the sum of the payments in a structured payout. Typically, lottery winners have the choice of taking a lump-sum or a structure payout of a certain amount per year for something like 20 years. In this case, very likely it would be $55,000 per year for 20 years. If you take the lump-sum, the amount is less than the sum of the structured payout because they take into account inflation and investment opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd Rogers:</p>
<p>Uh, think about, how could the governments be reducing the BEFORE TAXES payout? What do you think the government takes that is not tax? I&#8217;m pretty sure the real reason for the disparity between the nominal $1.11 million and the $600,000 is that the $1.11 million figure is the sum of the payments in a structured payout. Typically, lottery winners have the choice of taking a lump-sum or a structure payout of a certain amount per year for something like 20 years. In this case, very likely it would be $55,000 per year for 20 years. If you take the lump-sum, the amount is less than the sum of the structured payout because they take into account inflation and investment opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at face value, this guy is what I would call a greedy jack-ass. 
If I had to guess, he would probably have gone broke like so many other lotto winners do.What I noticed and am always irked about is:
$19,000,000/17=$1.11 million.  All these government hands in the pot
reduce that lump-sum down to $600,000 BEFORE TAXES!!!  Those founding
fathers would indeed be proud of their legacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at face value, this guy is what I would call a greedy jack-ass.<br />
If I had to guess, he would probably have gone broke like so many other lotto winners do.What I noticed and am always irked about is:<br />
$19,000,000/17=$1.11 million.  All these government hands in the pot<br />
reduce that lump-sum down to $600,000 BEFORE TAXES!!!  Those founding<br />
fathers would indeed be proud of their legacy.</p>
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