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	<title>Comments on: Forbes.com: Down with the CPSIA!</title>
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		<title>By: Todd Rogers</title>
		<link>http://overlawyered.com/2009/01/forbescom-down-with-the-cpsia/comment-page-1/#comment-38961</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, this law could become obsolete with proper labels such as: &quot;Not intended for distribution or use by persons under the age of thirteen.&quot;  &quot;This item is made available purely for novelty use, only.&quot;  Yes, this kind of pedestrian side-stepping is clearly intended to disregard the spirit of the law.  Such is the case when responding to poorly written law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, this law could become obsolete with proper labels such as: &#8220;Not intended for distribution or use by persons under the age of thirteen.&#8221;  &#8220;This item is made available purely for novelty use, only.&#8221;  Yes, this kind of pedestrian side-stepping is clearly intended to disregard the spirit of the law.  Such is the case when responding to poorly written law.</p>
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		<title>By: SmokeVanThorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>SmokeVanThorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unintended consequence&quot; is the euphemism for &quot;something (bad) that advocates should have realized would happen but (a) were too stupid and/or too intent on their agenda to consider; and/or (b) was ignored because they were too busy feeling good about themselves while demonizing their opponents; and/or (c) really doesn&#039;t matter as long as it is borne by others.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unintended consequence&#8221; is the euphemism for &#8220;something (bad) that advocates should have realized would happen but (a) were too stupid and/or too intent on their agenda to consider; and/or (b) was ignored because they were too busy feeling good about themselves while demonizing their opponents; and/or (c) really doesn&#8217;t matter as long as it is borne by others.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: asdf fff</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a really well-written article in Forbes, good job. Clear, interesting, persuasive.

One comment I would like to make is on the phrase &quot;As CPSIA opponents mobilize, the phrase &#039;unintended consequences&#039; is often heard.&quot;

Have you ever noticed how often some law is passed, and then people argue that it&#039;s clear text results in &quot;unintended consequences&quot;? Usually, people say &quot;law X was supposed to solve problem Y,&quot; and then they argue that law X actually harms Z, where Z is someone who is sympathetic and who does not contribute to problem Y at all. 

The fallacy with this line of reasoning, in my view, is that the fact that a law&#039;s text is different from its public justification (&quot;problem Y&quot;) or from the policy values of many people (&quot;support Z&quot;) does not mean its consequences are &quot;unintended.&quot; The best measure of the intention of a law, absent scrivenor&#039;s error, is its text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a really well-written article in Forbes, good job. Clear, interesting, persuasive.</p>
<p>One comment I would like to make is on the phrase &#8220;As CPSIA opponents mobilize, the phrase &#8216;unintended consequences&#8217; is often heard.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you ever noticed how often some law is passed, and then people argue that it&#8217;s clear text results in &#8220;unintended consequences&#8221;? Usually, people say &#8220;law X was supposed to solve problem Y,&#8221; and then they argue that law X actually harms Z, where Z is someone who is sympathetic and who does not contribute to problem Y at all. </p>
<p>The fallacy with this line of reasoning, in my view, is that the fact that a law&#8217;s text is different from its public justification (&#8220;problem Y&#8221;) or from the policy values of many people (&#8220;support Z&#8221;) does not mean its consequences are &#8220;unintended.&#8221; The best measure of the intention of a law, absent scrivenor&#8217;s error, is its text.</p>
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		<title>By: Cecilia Leibovitz</title>
		<link>http://overlawyered.com/2009/01/forbescom-down-with-the-cpsia/comment-page-1/#comment-38915</link>
		<dc:creator>Cecilia Leibovitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this well researched and intuitive article. 

Cecilia  Leibovitz
craftsburykids.com
handmadetoyalliance.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this well researched and intuitive article. </p>
<p>Cecilia  Leibovitz<br />
craftsburykids.com<br />
handmadetoyalliance.org</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Nieporent</title>
		<link>http://overlawyered.com/2009/01/forbescom-down-with-the-cpsia/comment-page-1/#comment-38894</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Nieporent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What blows my mind is how such an incredibly flawed piece of legislation could pass the senate by a margin of 89 to 3 and the house by a margin of 424 to 1. It says something about the collective wisdom of Congress&lt;/i&gt;

Why are you surprised? It&#039;s for the Children™!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What blows my mind is how such an incredibly flawed piece of legislation could pass the senate by a margin of 89 to 3 and the house by a margin of 424 to 1. It says something about the collective wisdom of Congress</i></p>
<p>Why are you surprised? It&#8217;s for the Children™!</p>
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		<title>By: PhilG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhilG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What blows my mind is how such an incredibly flawed piece of legislation could pass the senate by a margin of 89 to 3 and the house by a margin of 424 to 1.  It says something about the collective wisdom of Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What blows my mind is how such an incredibly flawed piece of legislation could pass the senate by a margin of 89 to 3 and the house by a margin of 424 to 1.  It says something about the collective wisdom of Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Phelps</title>
		<link>http://overlawyered.com/2009/01/forbescom-down-with-the-cpsia/comment-page-1/#comment-38860</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can always trust Ron Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can always trust Ron Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: SSFC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SSFC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your first commenter at Forbes, the mini-Nader who poses the threat of children catching fire because of lead-tainted moccasins, is my favorite commenter of all time.

Probably an intern for CSPI or another Nader front, but what a catch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your first commenter at Forbes, the mini-Nader who poses the threat of children catching fire because of lead-tainted moccasins, is my favorite commenter of all time.</p>
<p>Probably an intern for CSPI or another Nader front, but what a catch!</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Rogers</title>
		<link>http://overlawyered.com/2009/01/forbescom-down-with-the-cpsia/comment-page-1/#comment-38859</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done.  Me sees a litigation lottery in the making.  Small scale operations are not very attractive targets for &quot;Big Law.&quot;  Like any predator, Big Law will enjoy a market bottleneck of &quot;Big Toys;&quot; only those elastic enough to absorb the shock of this law will survive.  And Big Law will find easier marks and deep pockets for product liability suits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done.  Me sees a litigation lottery in the making.  Small scale operations are not very attractive targets for &#8220;Big Law.&#8221;  Like any predator, Big Law will enjoy a market bottleneck of &#8220;Big Toys;&#8221; only those elastic enough to absorb the shock of this law will survive.  And Big Law will find easier marks and deep pockets for product liability suits.</p>
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