Potential bad omens for the defense

by Walter Olson on October 29, 2009

When jurors ask for and receive a ten-digit adding machine to assist in their deliberations [Sacramento Bee, on the "Hold Your Wee for a Wii" trial, via Miller]

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1 A.W. 10.29.09 at 8:59 am

i think that case is ridiculous. i bet only 1 out of 10 people even know it is possible to die this way. so why should we require these dj’s to know? and why should they be expected to know and the victim isn’t? of course in comparitive negligence states you can still lose millions of dollars even if you are only 10% to blame, which seems wrong to me.

2 spudbeach 10.29.09 at 11:04 am

Umm — because they were actually warned? A caller identified themselves as a registered nurse and said that this contest could lead to death.

3 Ace of Sevens 10.29.09 at 12:25 pm

Besides that they were warned, since they were running the thing, it was their responsibility to look into its safety. This is business law 101 stuff. (I may have a distorted view of this because my business law 101 professor used to advise radio stations in this capacity.) I think they were lucky to escape manslaughter charges considering the warning, which pushed it from negligence to gross negligence.

4 A.W. 10.29.09 at 12:58 pm

spud

Fair enough. and now i read it a little more, they mentioned it repeatedly on the air that there was a possiblity of this happening. and so she knew too. that’s called assumption of risk.

ultimately we have a duty to watch out for ourselves. now i feel awful that this woman died, but i don’t see how you say that the DJ’s were negligent but she wasn’t.

And there is the very real possibility that she signed a release.

5 Ace of Sevens 10.29.09 at 3:19 pm

The release she signed only was to appear on the radio and releases don’t protect you in cases of negligence, anyway. It’s not clear the contestants were actually listening to the broadcast and her mental capacity may have been impaired by then, anyway. Have you actually heard the recordings, she’s clearly no longer rational by the time she leaves. Besides, it’s reasonable to assume that a radio station won’t have you risk your life for a contest and not even warn you about it.

6 A.W. 10.29.09 at 4:24 pm

> reasonable to assume that a radio station won’t have you risk your life for a contest and not even warn you about it

Have you even listened to these morning shows? no, i would never trust the average radio guy with two nickels let alone my life.

Sorry, she should have known better.

And most of the evidence that they were warned should have alerted her, too.

Seriously, take care of yourself. don’t just assume everyone knows something you don’t.

7 Invid 10.29.09 at 5:52 pm

Hopefully the jury won’t use all 10 digits….

8 Ted Frank 10.29.09 at 8:50 pm

I’m just happy they’re not suing the water bottler for failure to warn.

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