Comments on: Casinos battle Phil Ivey over “edge-sorting” baccarat wins http://overlawyered.com/2014/04/casinos-battle-phil-ivey-edge-sorting-baccarat-wins/ Chronicling the high cost of our legal system Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:50:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.1 By: Stand by Phil Ivey http://overlawyered.com/2014/04/casinos-battle-phil-ivey-edge-sorting-baccarat-wins/comment-page-1/#comment-281834 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 19:10:49 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=45255#comment-281834 It’s hard to consider it cheating when it’s their cards, only they handled the cards and they dealt the cards. Since when is it against the rules to look at the back of cards that are dealt face down on the table?

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By: Scott http://overlawyered.com/2014/04/casinos-battle-phil-ivey-edge-sorting-baccarat-wins/comment-page-1/#comment-279308 Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:24:23 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=45255#comment-279308 He played their game with their cards. They paid the money and allowed him to walk out. Can’t feel too bad for casino.

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By: Boblipton http://overlawyered.com/2014/04/casinos-battle-phil-ivey-edge-sorting-baccarat-wins/comment-page-1/#comment-279270 Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:14:45 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=45255#comment-279270 If the Casino refuses to pay the winnings, what claim do they have against the card manufacturers? They’ve suffered no loss and therefore no harm. Indeed, their multiplicity of theories as to what happened indicate they have no coherent hypothesis as to what happened and certainly nothing that can rise to the level of a testable theory. All they have is a collection of strands, all of which have in common the thesis that they should not pay…. and so the conclusion is inescapable that where you wind up is where you want to go: they should not pay because they do not wish to pay.

Bob

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By: Walter Olson http://overlawyered.com/2014/04/casinos-battle-phil-ivey-edge-sorting-baccarat-wins/comment-page-1/#comment-279147 Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:04:40 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=45255#comment-279147 The linked article indicates that the casino is suing the company that makes the playing cards.

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By: AI http://overlawyered.com/2014/04/casinos-battle-phil-ivey-edge-sorting-baccarat-wins/comment-page-1/#comment-279120 Wed, 16 Apr 2014 09:49:35 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=45255#comment-279120 They should blame the card company for having defective cards or the casino employees who used the cards.

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By: jdgalt http://overlawyered.com/2014/04/casinos-battle-phil-ivey-edge-sorting-baccarat-wins/comment-page-1/#comment-279053 Wed, 16 Apr 2014 00:16:00 +0000 http://overlawyered.com/?p=45255#comment-279053 I predict another settlement — the casinos would be screwed if a court ever truly answers this question EITHER way. But please let us know the outcome, if and when.

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