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		<title>&#8220;Battleground Ohio: John Kasich’s Collective Bargaining Reform Goes Down&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 05:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>At Capital Research Center, James Antle has a post-mortem on the defeat of Ohio Republicans&#8217; ambitious attempt to turn around the public sector employment climate. Tweet Tags: firefighters, labor unions, Ohio, police, public employment</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2011/12/battleground-ohio-john-kasich%e2%80%99s-collective-bargaining-reform-goes-down/">&#8220;Battleground Ohio: John Kasich’s Collective Bargaining Reform Goes Down&#8221;</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Capital Research Center, James Antle <a href="http://capitalresearch.org/2011/12/battleground-ohio-john-kasich’s-collective-bargaining-reform-goes-down/">has a post-mortem</a> on the defeat of Ohio Republicans&#8217; ambitious attempt to turn around the public sector employment climate.</p>
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		<title>August 11 roundup</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 05:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Seattle&#8217;s best? Class action lawyer suing Apple, e-publishers has represented Microsoft [Seattle Times, earlier] &#8220;Disabled&#8221; NYC firefighter/martial arts enthusiast can go on getting checks for life [NYPost; compare] After the FDA enforcement action on drug manufacturing lapses come the tagalong liability claims by uninjured plaintiffs [Beck] &#8220;What If Lower Court Judges Weren’t Bound by Supreme [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2011/08/august-11-roundup-2/">August 11 roundup</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
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<li>Seattle&#8217;s best? Class action lawyer suing Apple, e-publishers has represented Microsoft [<a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015863626_ebooksuit.html">Seattle Times</a>, <a href="http://overlawyered.com/early-years/february-2000-archives-part-2/#000228c">earlier</a>]</li>
<li>&#8220;Disabled&#8221; NYC firefighter/martial arts enthusiast can go on getting checks for life [<a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/he_not_injured_but_union_let_him_ZaqDKpquGFt2aRnbfB5w0J#.TiMopodpu0Y.email">NYPost</a>; <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2010/10/update-judge-upholds-13-m-award-for-seattle-firefighter/">compare</a>]  </li>
<li>After the FDA enforcement action on drug manufacturing lapses come the tagalong liability claims by uninjured plaintiffs [<a href="http://druganddevicelaw.blogspot.com/2011/07/economic-loss-plaintiffs-dont-step-up.html">Beck</a>]  </li>
<li>&#8220;What If Lower Court Judges Weren’t Bound by Supreme Court Precedent?&#8221; [<a href="http://volokh.com/2011/07/07/what-if-lower-court-judges-werent-bound-by-supreme-court-precedent/">Orin Kerr</a>]  </li>
<li>Fark.com <a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/blog235/Patent-infringement-lawsuit-against-Fark-settled-for-zero-dollars-Also-patent-trolls-suck-hairy-donkey-balls">settles a patent suit</a> for $0 (rough language); </li>
<li>Canadian law society to pay $100K for asking prospective lawyers about mental illness [<a href="http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/canadian_law_society_ordered_to_pay_100k_for_bias_against_lawyer_who_admitt/">ABA Journal</a>]  </li>
<li>Self-help eviction? &#8220;Chinese Developers Accused Of Putting Scorpions In Apartments To Force Out Residents&#8221; [<a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/shenzhen-scorpions-2011-7">Business Insider</a>] </li>
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		<title>New at Cato: public employee binding arbitration</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a new blog post up at Cato on the article in yesterday&#8217;s New York Times tracing how unsustainable police and fire contracts &#8212; the product, more specifically, of a pro-union state law imposing binding arbitration on municipalities &#8212; have driven the city of Central Falls to the brink of bankruptcy. Read it here. [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2011/07/new-at-cato-public-employee-binding-arbitration/">New at Cato: public employee binding arbitration</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/as-central-falls-falls/">new blog post up at Cato</a> on the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/12/business/central-falls-ri-faces-bankruptcy-over-pension-promises.html?_r=1&#038;ref=us">article</a> in yesterday&#8217;s New York Times tracing how unsustainable police and fire contracts &#8212; the product, more specifically, of a pro-union state law imposing binding arbitration on municipalities &#8212; have driven the city of Central Falls to the brink of bankruptcy. Read it <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/as-central-falls-falls/">here</a>. Matt Welch discusses the same article <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2011/07/12/rhode-island-cities-run-out-of">at Reason &#8220;Hit and Run.&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>Firefighters who let houses burn</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>John Berlau recalls Memphis, Kansas City and Chicago strikes accompanied by arson, sabotage, and loss of both life and property: If the IAFF [International Association of Fire Fighters] and its allies get their way with federal legislation to mandate collective bargaining for public-safety officers in every American community, the deadly fire-fighter strikes of the recent [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2010/10/firefighters-who-let-houses-burn/">Firefighters who let houses burn</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/249701/fire-next-time-john-berlau">John Berlau</a> recalls Memphis, Kansas City and Chicago strikes accompanied by arson, sabotage, and loss of both life and property: </p>
<blockquote><p>If the IAFF [International Association of Fire Fighters] and its allies get their way with federal legislation to mandate collective bargaining for public-safety officers in every American community, the deadly fire-fighter strikes of the recent past will almost certainly be a part of our &#8220;progressive&#8221; future.  &#8230;The biggest congressional priority of the IAFF over the past few years has been the so-called Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act, which would force unionization and collective bargaining on every one of the nation’s local fire departments. &#8230; According to the watchdog Public Service Research Council, public-employee strikes quadruple, on average, in the years after state laws mandating public-sector collective bargaining take effect.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Camera said to capture $12.8 M winner&#8217;s &#8220;victory dance&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The city of Seattle is seeking to overturn a $12.8 million judgment awarded to a former firefighter, who claimed he was permanently disabled by an on-duty fall, after investigators secretly shot video of the man chopping wood, playing horseshoes and bocce ball, and even breaking into a victory dance.&#8221; [Jennifer Sullivan, Seattle Times] Tweet Tags: [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2010/08/camera-said-to-capture-12-8-m-winners-victory-dance/">Camera said to capture $12.8 M winner&#8217;s &#8220;victory dance&#8221;</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The city of Seattle is seeking to overturn a $12.8 million judgment awarded to a former firefighter, who claimed he was permanently disabled by an on-duty fall, after investigators secretly shot video of the man chopping wood, playing horseshoes and bocce ball, and even breaking into a victory dance.&#8221; [<a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2012547801_firefighterfall06m.html">Jennifer Sullivan, Seattle Times</a>] </p>
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		<title>Now up at Forbes.com: my reactions on Ricci</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got an opinion piece up at Forbes.com on today&#8217;s Supreme Court decision in Ricci v. DiStefano, the New Haven firefighter reverse-discrimination case. The title: &#8220;Sued If You Do, Sued If You Don&#8217;t: Through the Looking Glass on Affirmative Action&#8221; (&#038; link thanks to Ramesh Ponnuru, NRO &#8220;Corner&#8221;, Daniel Schwartz, Connecticut Employment Law Blog, Jon [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2009/06/now-up-at-forbescom-my-reactions-on-ricci/">Now up at Forbes.com: my reactions on Ricci</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got an opinion piece up at Forbes.com on today&#8217;s Supreme Court decision in Ricci v. DiStefano, the New Haven firefighter reverse-discrimination case. The title: &#8220;<a href="http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/29/affirmative-action-firefighters-opinions-contributors-walter-olson.html">Sued If You Do, Sued If You Don&#8217;t: Through the Looking Glass on Affirmative Action</a>&#8221; (<strong>&#038; link thanks</strong> to <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2RjZDRmZDBmY2MyOWVlNTQwOWY1MmU5MGQ3N2E2ZDY=">Ramesh Ponnuru, NRO &#8220;Corner&#8221;</a>, <a href="http://www.ctemploymentlawblog.com/2009/06/articles/decisions-and-rulings/ricci-v-destefano-the-best-of-todays-coverage-of-the-supreme-court-decision/">Daniel Schwartz, Connecticut Employment Law Blog</a>, <a href="http://ohioemploymentlaw.blogspot.com/2009/06/ricci-v-destefano-supreme-court-rules.html">Jon Hyman, Ohio Employment Law</a> (to whom thanks for the kind comments as well), and <a href="http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/06/30/a-strong-basis-in-evidence-of-what.aspx?ref=rss">Scott Greenfield, Simple Justice</a>). </p>
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		<title>Boston Chinese restaurant blaze: &#8220;Firefighters&#8217; families settle for $2.2m&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 09:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Boston Globe: &#8220;The families of two Boston firefighters killed in a West Roxbury restaurant fire and a third firefighter injured in the blaze will split $2.2 million to settle lawsuits they brought against the restaurant, its landlord, and a grease-cleaning company, according to a source involved in the agreement.&#8221; As we&#8217;ve mentioned in the past, [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2009/06/boston-chinese-restaurant-blaze-firefighters-families-settle-for-22m/">Boston Chinese restaurant blaze: &#8220;Firefighters&#8217; families settle for $2.2m&#8221;</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/06/06/2_years_after_west_roxbury_blaze_firefighters_families_settle_for_22m/">Boston Globe</a>: &#8220;The families of two Boston firefighters killed in a West Roxbury restaurant fire and a third firefighter injured in the blaze will split $2.2 million to settle lawsuits they brought against the restaurant, its landlord, and a grease-cleaning company, according to a source involved in the agreement.&#8221; As we&#8217;ve <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/08/wounded-in-shootout-sheriffs-deputies-sue-widow/">mentioned</a> in the past, the “<a href="http://overlawyered.com/tag/firefighters-rule/">firefighters’ rule</a>”, a &#8220;doctrine that historically has barred lawsuits by public safety officers against those whose negligence has allegedly led to emergencies [...] has decayed considerably in recent years in some jurisdictions, and suits by firefighters, police, paramedics and other rescuers have multiplied.&#8221; Also of note: &#8220;when they died, [one of the two firefighters] had traces of cocaine in his blood, and [the other's] blood alcohol level was .27, three times the legal limit to drive in Massachusetts, according to two government officials who described the results to the Globe&#8221;. The firefighters&#8217; union has thus far successfully blocked efforts to subject its members to drug and alcohol testing.</p>
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		<title>Wounded in shootout, sheriff&#8217;s deputies sue widow</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Last year in Shingle Springs, Calif., a schizophrenic 34-year-old named Eddie Mies gunned down his father and then engaged in a shootout with sheriff&#8217;s deputies which resulted in his own death and the wounding of three deputies. Now two of the deputies have sued Karen Mies, mother of the slain gunman and widow of his [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/08/wounded-in-shootout-sheriffs-deputies-sue-widow/">Wounded in shootout, sheriff&#8217;s deputies sue widow</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year in Shingle Springs, Calif., a schizophrenic 34-year-old named Eddie Mies gunned down his father and then engaged in a shootout with sheriff&#8217;s deputies which resulted in his own death and the wounding of three deputies. Now two of the deputies have sued Karen Mies, mother of the slain gunman and widow of his slain father, as well as her late husband&#8217;s estate and surviving son for a combined $8 million for &#8220;for emotional distress, medical expenses, loss of earning capacity, and punitive damages.&#8221; They claim the family should have controlled Eddie better, and say the deputies &#8220;suffered anxiety and humiliation&#8221; in addition to their physical injuries. </p>
<p>Attorney Phillip Mastagni of Sacramento, &#8220;whose family law firm works for police unions across Northern California&#8221;, is representing the two deputies, Jon Yaws and Greg Murphy, in the suit filed in El Dorado County. Mastagni says he is confident that the suit will overcome the &#8220;firefighters&#8217; rule&#8221;, a doctrine that historically has barred lawsuits by public safety officers against those whose negligence has allegedly led to emergencies. The rule has decayed considerably in recent years in some jurisdictions, and suits by firefighters, police, paramedics and other rescuers have multiplied. </p>
<p>The defendant, Mrs. Mies, a hospice nurse, had this to say: </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;June 5 was a tragic day for me and my family, and it was a tragic day for the deputies who were injured,&#8221; Karen Mies said. &#8220;We were all victims that day. But this lawsuit is victimizing our family again. What do they want? My husband&#8217;s dead, my son&#8217;s dead. Do they want my house and my 10-year-old car?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p> (Dorothy Korber, &#8220;Son battled officers; now mom fights suit&#8221;, Sacramento Bee, <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/crime/story/1145192.html">Aug. 10</a>). Smallest Minority (<a href="http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2008/08/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me.html">Aug. 20</a>) is particularly intrigued by allegations of &#8220;bunkers and tunnels&#8221; supposedly maintained by the younger Mies.</p>
<p>Public criticism that followed initial reports of the lawsuit doesn&#8217;t seem to have softened Yaws and Murphy any: per one later account (<a href="http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&#038;f=5&#038;t=743035">AR15.com Forums</a>, scroll to update at end of first entry, source not identified) they&#8217;ve upped their demand to $38.4 million. What are said to be excerpts of other recent local coverage can be found on <a href="http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&#038;f=5&#038;t=743035&#038;page=6">page 6 of the same extensive comments section</a>. And the name of the third injured deputy, the one who did <em>not</em> sue, deserves to be recorded in this place as well: it is Melissa Meekma. <strong>More</strong>: <a href="http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2008/08/dont-call-police-theyll-sue-you.html">Pro Libertate</a>. </p>
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		<title>July 25 roundup</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re claiming benefits for &#8220;total and permanent&#8221; disability it&#8217;s probably best not to enter bodybuilding competitions [Boston Globe and more, firefighter Albert Arroyo] More: GruntDoc; From 1884 Montreal: actionable to snub a parishioner while taking collection in church? [Volokh] Follow the bouncing venue in lawsuits against Rick Frenkel and Cisco over Patent Troll Tracker [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/07/july-25-roundup/">July 25 roundup</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><UL><LI>If you&#8217;re claiming benefits for &#8220;total and permanent&#8221; disability it&#8217;s probably best not to enter bodybuilding competitions [<a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/07/bodybuilding_fi.html">Boston Globe</a> and <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/07/21/doctor_defends_firefighter_dignosis/">more</a>, firefighter Albert Arroyo] <strong>More</strong>: <a href="http://gruntdoc.com/2008/07/straining-credulity.html">GruntDoc</a>;</LI></p>
<p><LI>From 1884 Montreal: actionable to snub a parishioner while taking collection in church? [<a href="http://volokh.com/posts/1216938559.shtml">Volokh</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Follow the bouncing venue in lawsuits against Rick Frenkel and Cisco over Patent Troll Tracker blog [<a href="http://texaslawyer.typepad.com/texas_lawyer_blog/2008/07/musical-chairs.html">Texas Lawyer "Tex Parte" blog</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Individual liberty was one reason Bill Gates was free to earn his billions, too bad he&#8217;s not doing more to advance it with his philanthropy [<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/health/24tobacco.html">NYTimes, Bloomberg and "tobacco control"</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Andrew Giuliani, son of the mayor, is suing Duke University for kicking him off its golf team [<a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-ligiul0725,0,1050973.story">Newsday</a>, <a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-nyheni0724,0,4058653.column">Henican</a>] <strong>More</strong>: <a href="http://www.popehat.com/2008/07/24/a-stumble-on-the-fairway-of-life/">complaint at Popehat</a>;</LI></p>
<p><LI>New at Point of Law: AAJ, formerly ATLA, has its <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/07/aaj-convention-lists-whats-hot.php">convention</a> in <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/07/preemption-meanwhile-back-at-t.php">Philadelphia</a> (<a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/07/big-goings-on-in-philadelphia.php">more</a>); bogeyman of <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/07/barbarians-on-the-bench.php">supposedly ultraconservative Roberts Court</a>; why must &#8220;trophy&#8221; federal courthouses have such <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/07/trophy-federal-courthouses.php">soulless and uncomfortable design?</a>; Congress <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/07/antiarbitration-bills-moving-i.php">gunning for arbitration</a>; too bad NYT&#8217;s enthusiasm for transparent public contracting on corporate monitors <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/07/transparency-in-selecting-outs.php">doesn&#8217;t carry over to other lawyer-hiring</a>; the <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/07/the-delaware-advantage.php">Delaware advantage</a> in court organization; as we keep asking, <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/07/rhode-island-lead-paint-what-h.php">what happened to Ron Motley&#8217;s yacht?</a> and <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/">much more</a>;</LI></p>
<p><LI>Dr. Anna Pou, New Orleans cancer surgeon whose prosecution after Katrina roused intense controversy, recounts her experience [<a href="http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7023293&#038;version=1&#038;locale=EN-US&#038;layoutCode=TSTY&#038;pageId=3.3.1">AP</a> via <a href="http://www.folo.us/2008/07/21/do-you-remember-anna-pou/">Folo</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>&#8220;Unreal world of greed&#8221;: California appeals court throws out $88 million fee-arbitration award to Milberg Weiss and other firms following challenge to &#8220;smog impact fees&#8221; [<a href="http://overlawyered.com/early-years/july-2002-archives-part-3/#0724a">six years ago on Overlawyered</a>]</LI></UL> </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Federal judge: asking employee to get coffee not an intrinsically sexist act [Legal Intelligencer] Kilt-clad Montgomery Blair Sibley, at press conference, adds certain je ne sais quoi to tawdry Larry Sinclair sideshow [Sydney Morning Herald] Remind us why Florida Gov. Crist is supposed to be an acceptable veep pick? [PoL]. Also at Point of Law: [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/06/june-20-roundup/">June 20 roundup</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><UL><LI>Federal judge: asking employee to get coffee not an intrinsically sexist act [<a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202422158304">Legal Intelligencer</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Kilt-clad <a href="http://overlawyered.com/tag/montgomery-blair-sibley/">Montgomery Blair Sibley</a>, at press conference, adds certain <em>je ne sais quoi</em> to tawdry <a href="http://overlawyered.com/tag/larry-sinclair/">Larry Sinclair</a> sideshow [<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/06/19/1213770824274.html">Sydney Morning Herald</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Remind us why Florida Gov. Crist is supposed to be an acceptable veep pick? [<a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/06/florida-making-wrong-waves-ove.php">PoL</a>]. Also at Point of Law: Hill&#8217;s FISA compromise may <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/06/on-surveillance-trial-lawyers.php">end pending telecom-privacy suits</a>; interesting Second Circuit <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/06/second-circuit-raceconscious-d.php">reverse-preference case</a> on <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/06/more-on-ricci-v-destefano.php">New Haven firefighters</a>.</LI></p>
<p><LI>Virginia bar authorities shaken by charges that Woodbridge attorney Stephen T. Conrad pocketed $3.4 million in injury settlements at clients&#8217; expense [<a href="http://www.valawyersweekly.com/weeklyedition/2008/06/09/discipline-cases-arise-in-sw-and-northern-virginia/">Va. Lawyers Weekly</a>; case of Christiansburg, Va. lawyer Gerard Marks ties in with first links <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/06/june-10-roundup/">here</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>U.K.: Local government instructs staff that term &#8220;brainstorming&#8221; might be insensitive to persons with epilepsy, use &#8220;thought showers&#8221; instead [<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2162568/Council-bans-brainstorming.html">Telegraph</a>; Tunbridge Wells, Kent]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Big personal injury law firm in Australia, Keddies Lawyers, denies accusations of client overcharging and document falsification [<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/insurer-calls-for-cap-on-legal-fees/2008/06/19/1213770827338.html">SMH</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Will this be on the bar exam? Massachusetts law school dean eyes war crime trials culminating in hanging for high officials of Bush Administration [<a href="http://legalblogwatch.typepad.com/legal_blog_watch/2008/06/law-school-plan.html">Ambrogi</a> and <a href="http://legalblogwatch.typepad.com/legal_blog_watch/2008/06/more-on-velvel.html">more</a>, <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/06/massachusetts-school-of-law-di.php">Michael Krauss</a> and <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/06/gallows-but-no-humor-great-mom.php">I at PoL</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>&#8220;Just another cash grab&#8221;? New Kabateck Brown Kellner &#8220;<a href="http://overlawyered.com/tag/click-fraud/">click-fraud</a>&#8221; class actions against Google AdWords, CitySearch [<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/27/AR2008052703567.html">Kincaid, TechCrunch/WaPo</a>]</LI></p>
<p><LI>Former Rep. Bob Barr, this year&#8217;s Libertarian presidential candidate, is no stranger to the role of plaintiff in politically fraught litigation [<a href="http://overlawyered.com/early-years/june-2002-archives-part-2/#0619b">six years ago on Overlawyered</a>, and represented by <a href="http://overlawyered.com/tag/larry-klayman/">Larry Klayman</a> to boot]</LI></UL> </p>
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