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		<title>Judge: flashing headlights to warn of speed trap is protected speech</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 12:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Florida cops have made a practice of ticketing drivers who warn others about speed traps by flashing their lights, despite uncertainty as to whether state law actually does prohibit such flashing. Now a judge in Sanford, Fla. has ruled that Ryan Kintner of Lake Mary not only was within his rights under state law when [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/05/judge-flashing-headlights-to-warn-of-speed-trap-is-protected-speech/">Judge: flashing headlights to warn of speed trap is protected speech</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florida cops have <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2011/09/ticketing-drivers-for-flashing-lights-near-speed-traps/">made</a> a <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2011/09/update-florida-suspends-ticketing-for-speed-trap-light-flashing/">practice</a> of ticketing drivers who warn others about speed traps by flashing their lights, despite uncertainty as to whether state law actually does prohibit such flashing. Now a judge in Sanford, Fla. has ruled that Ryan Kintner of Lake Mary not only was within his rights under state law when he flashed his headlights, but was engaging in speech protected by the First Amendment. [<strong>More</strong>, <a href="http://jalopnik.com/5912839/a-florida-judge-ruled-that-flashing-your-headlights-is-free-speech">Jalopnik</a>, <a href="http://volokh.com/2012/05/24/flashing-headlights-to-warn-oncoming-drivers-of-a-speed-trap-constitutionally-protected-speech/">Volokh</a>; <a href="http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-05-22/news/os-flashing-headlights-ruling-20120522_1_ryan-kintner-free-speech-headlights">Orlando Sentinel</a>] (<strong>&#038; welcome</strong> <a href="http://abovethelaw.com/2012/05/free-speech-potpourri-begging-might-not-be-speech-but-flashing-your-headlights-certainly-is/">Above the Law</a>, <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2012/05/24/flashing-headlights-to-warn-about-speed">Reason</a>, <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/judge-flashing-headlights-to-warn-of-speed-trap-is-protected-speech/">Cato at Liberty</a>, <a href="http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2012/05/24/flashing_your_h.html">Amy Alkon</a> readers)</p>
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		<title>Tanks but no tanks</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Coyote fails to appreciate a Florida law regulating propane storage for RVs. Tweet Tags: Florida, safety</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/04/tanks-but-no-tanks/">Tanks but no tanks</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coyote fails to appreciate a Florida law regulating <a href="http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2012/04/large-hassles-and-small-from-the-government.html">propane storage for RVs</a>. </p>
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		<title>Will Stand Your Ground change the outcome of the Martin/Zimmerman case?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The Orlando Sentinel asked me to analyze how Florida&#8217;s Stand Your Ground law affects the Trayvon Martin shooting case. I conclude that in most likely scenarios, the law will make no difference one way or the other on George Zimmerman&#8217;s guilt or innocence, though it does help him on some points of procedure. Jacob Sullum [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/will-stand-your-ground-change-the-outcome-of-the-martinzimmerman-case/">Will Stand Your Ground change the outcome of the Martin/Zimmerman case?</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Orlando Sentinel asked me to analyze how Florida&#8217;s Stand Your Ground law affects the Trayvon Martin shooting case. I <a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-ed-trayvon-martin-stand-your-ground-yes-032712-20120326,0,3710156.story">conclude</a> that in most likely scenarios, the law will make no difference one way or the other on George Zimmerman&#8217;s guilt or innocence, though it does help him on some points of procedure.  Jacob Sullum has <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2012/03/26/stand-your-ground-may-have-nothing-to-do">related thoughts</a> at Reason (more at <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/the-myths-and-realities-of-stand-your-ground-laws/">Cato</a>). </p>
<p>The other piece in the point-counterpoint is from Florida prosecutor Buddy Rogers who <a href="http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-27/news/os-ed-trayvon-martin-stand-your-ground-no-032712-20120326_1_castle-doctrine-law-enforcement-motel-room">emphasizes</a> that claims of justifiable homicide have risen sharply (from 12 to 33 a year), even if homicides per capita themselves have not. I took a look at the crime numbers in <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/in-defense-of-stand-your-ground-laws/">this Cato post</a>. </p>
<p>To answer a question, it was the Sentinel editors who elected to describe the antagonists in the Sanford confrontation by way of a given name for one (&#8220;Trayvon&#8221;) but a surname for the other (&#8220;Zimmerman&#8221;). My own inclination is to use a surname for both.</p>
<p>Michael Mannheimer has an important post on the role of &#8220;provocation&#8221; in the Martin/Zimmerman case at <a href="http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2012/03/trayvon-martin-and-the-initial-aggressor-issue.html">PrawfsBlawg</a>. Earlier <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/dont-rush-to-repeal-stand-your-ground-laws/">here</a>, <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/stand-your-ground-laws-contd/">here</a>, and <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/krugman-brady-and-stand-your-ground-laws/">here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>P.S.</strong> David Kopel <a href="http://volokh.com/2012/03/27/floridas-self-defense-laws/">similarly argues</a> that Zimmerman&#8217;s guilt or innocence (depending on which version of events is accepted) is no different in Florida from what it would be under the law of New York or any other state; he also defends the rationale for Florida&#8217;s use of an immunity, which he argues &#8220;does not change the law, but&#8230; apparently is effective at reminding law enforcement officers of the standard they are required to obey&#8221; under court precedents forbidding arrest without probable cause.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>A media organization has asked me to take a closer look at the controversy over Florida&#8217;s Stand Your Ground (SYG) law, and I&#8217;ll be working on that over the next day or two. In the mean time, here are a few links you might want to check out if you&#8217;re following the controversy (earlier): Florida&#8217;s [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/stand-your-ground-laws-contd/">Stand Your Ground laws, cont&#8217;d</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A media organization has asked me to take a closer look at the controversy over Florida&#8217;s Stand Your Ground (SYG) law, and I&#8217;ll be working on that over the next day or two. In the mean time, here are a few links you might want to check out if you&#8217;re following the controversy (<a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/dont-rush-to-repeal-stand-your-ground-laws/">earlier</a>): </p>
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<li>Florida&#8217;s law on justifiable use of force, including the 2005 SYG changes, is <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&#038;URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html">here</a>. As usual, there is no substitute for reading the statute if you want to know how it works. Links to other state SYG laws are <a href="http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/03/23-other-states-have-stand-your-ground-laws-too/50226/">here</a>. </li>
<li>Michael Mannheimer at PrawfsBlawg <a href="http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2012/03/trayvon-martin-and-floridas-stand-your-ground-law.html">points out</a> that some of the law&#8217;s reputed new burdens on prosecutors aren&#8217;t in fact new:<br />
<blockquote><p>First, some have pointed out that, in Florida, the prosecution has the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant did not act in self-defense, assuming the defendant has adduced sufficient evidence to present a jury question. But this is true in virtually every State: last I checked, only Ohio and South Carolina require a defendant to shoulder the burden of persuasion on self-defense. Some have pointed out that when a defendant claims self-defense in a homicide prosecution, the State has lost its best witness and the jury therefore hears only one side of the story. But this is true in any homicide case. &#8230; </p>
<p>So what are we left with that distinguishes Florida&#8217;s law? Well, obviously there is the &#8220;stand your ground&#8221; provision which eliminates the common-law duty to retreat. But the law in America has always been ambivalent about the duty to retreat, with about half the States at any given time recognizing the duty to retreat and about half abrogating it. This is not a new development. Moreover, even where there is no duty to retreat, it is still a requirement that the defendant reasonably believed that deadly force was necessary to prevent the imminent use of deadly physical force. And even in a retreat jurisdiction, the prosecution generally must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant knew he could retreat with complete safety. So, in practice, there is not a whole lot of daylight between retreat and no-retreat jurisdictions. &#8230; </p></blockquote>
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<li>But Mannheimer also points to a more significant difference in the 2005 law, namely that the self-defense justification is couched as an <em>immunity</em> rather than as a <em>defense</em> to be raised at trial. This distinction does accord a significant advantage to some defendants, especially where prosecutors hold a factually weak hand at the outset. &#8220;Meg&#8221; from Cambridge, among the few constructive voices amid the NYT comments section&#8217;s baying mob, makes a similar point <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/03/21/do-stand-your-ground-laws-encourage-vigilantes/due-process-will-test-a-self-defense-claim?comments#permid=1">here</a>. </li>
<li>And a number of commentators raise plausible objections to details of the SYG legislation which do not appear relevant to whether George Zimmerman can escape prosecution for shooting Trayvon Martin.  Thus Adam Winkler <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/03/21/do-stand-your-ground-laws-encourage-vigilantes/what-the-florida-stand-your-ground-law-says">questions</a> whether immunity should extend to situations where the user of deadly force acted in reasonable fear of lethal danger or forcible felony aimed at some third person other than himself (it would appear Zimmerman asserted danger-to-himself, not danger-to-third-parties, at the police station). And Anthony Sebok, writing at the time of the law&#8217;s passage, <a href="http://writ.news.findlaw.com/sebok/20050502.html">sharply criticizes</a> the law&#8217;s expansion of immunity in home and car scenarios, again not at issue in the Martin case.</li>
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<p>All of which is by way of clearing the decks for a closer examination of the provisions of SYG that do relate to Zimmerman&#8217;s claim of immunity, which will have to wait for a later post.</p>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t rush to repeal &#8220;Stand Your Ground&#8221; laws</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The New York Times invited me to participate in a &#8220;Room for Debate&#8221; discussion of Florida&#8217;s controversial &#8220;Stand Your Ground&#8221; self-defense law, and my contribution is here. I elaborate on some of the issues at stake &#8212; including the failure of Florida&#8217;s violent crime rate to rise as predicted under the law &#8212; in this [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/dont-rush-to-repeal-stand-your-ground-laws/">Don&#8217;t rush to repeal &#8220;Stand Your Ground&#8221; laws</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New York Times invited me to participate in a &#8220;Room for Debate&#8221; <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/03/21/do-stand-your-ground-laws-encourage-vigilantes">discussion</a> of Florida&#8217;s controversial &#8220;Stand Your Ground&#8221; self-defense law, and my contribution is <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/03/21/do-stand-your-ground-laws-encourage-vigilantes/due-process-will-test-a-self-defense-claim">here</a>. I elaborate on some of the issues at stake &#8212; including the failure of Florida&#8217;s violent crime rate to rise as predicted under the law &#8212; in <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/in-defense-of-stand-your-ground-laws/">this Cato post</a> (<strong>&#038; welcome</strong> <a href="http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/139430/">Instapundit</a>, <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/agenda/294220/very-brief-note-trayvon-martin-shooting-reihan-salam">Reihan Salam/NRO</a>, <a href="http://www.insideronline.org/blogarchive.cfm?month=3&#038;year=2012#3BC192FC-5056-B712-669BB1CF2C879A13">Alex Adrianson/Insider Online</a>, <a href="http://allergic2bull.blogspot.com/2012/03/trayvon-martin-shooting-roundup.html">Aaron Worthing</a>, <a href="http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/rush-to-judgment-on-george-zimmerman-reminiscent-of-mob-behavior">David Codrea</a> readers). </p>
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		<title>Great moments in law firm management?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 14:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>According to the Sun-Sentinel, managers at the Deerfield Beach, Fla. real estate law firm of Elizabeth Wellborn fired 14 employees on Friday for wearing orange clothing. According to the report, an executive had been informed that the workers were wearing orange as a protest, but several employees told the newspaper that they knew of no [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/great-moments-in-law-firm-management/">Great moments in law firm management?</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the <a href="http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/fl-elizabeth-wellborn-orange-firing-20120316,0,486402.story">Sun-Sentinel</a>, managers at the Deerfield Beach, Fla. real estate law firm of Elizabeth Wellborn fired 14 employees on Friday for wearing orange clothing. According to the report, an executive had been informed that the workers were wearing orange as a protest, but several employees told the newspaper that they knew of no protest and that they customarily wore orange on paydays so that they would appear as a group at a happy hour after work. </p>
<p>If the story checks out as reported &#8212; the law firm was recorded as having declined comment &#8212; expect to hear rumblings about how it refutes the American legal principle of &#8220;employment at will,&#8221; though it doesn&#8217;t actually refute that principle any more than the tale of a wastrel heir refutes the principle of inheritance.</p>
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		<title>Clarifying Florida lawyers&#8217; position</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>According to what seems to be the sense of many in the Florida legal profession, doctors and their patients should not have the right to enter enforceable arbitration agreements before the fact to resolve disputes, but lawyers and their clients should have the right to enter enforceable agreements before the fact to limit liability for [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/clarifying-florida-lawyers-position/">Clarifying Florida lawyers&#8217; position</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to what seems to be the sense of many in the Florida legal profession, doctors and their patients should <em>not</em> have the right to enter enforceable arbitration agreements before the fact to resolve disputes, but lawyers and their clients <em>should</em> have the right to enter enforceable agreements before the fact to limit liability for excessive charging of legal fees. Thanks for clarifying! [<a href="http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2012/02/healthcare-update-02-13-2012/">White Coat</a>, scroll; <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2006/10/florida-reform-in-trouble-jeff-kottkamp/">earlier</a>] </p>
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		<title>It was the dirty carpeting</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>A fired Florida TV anchorman claims whistleblowing retaliation [Fort Myers News-Press] Tweet Tags: broadcasters, Florida, OSHA, whistleblowers</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/it-was-the-dirty-carpeting/">It was the dirty carpeting</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fired Florida TV anchorman claims whistleblowing retaliation [<a href="http://www.news-press.com/article/20120225/ENT/120225011/Ex-Southwest-Florida-TV-anchorman-Craig-Wolf-files-whistle-blower-lawsuit-against-former-employer">Fort Myers News-Press</a>] </p>
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		<title>Law firm sues over poor Better Business Bureau rating</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stung by a dismal mark last year, the KEL law firm has filed a federal lawsuit against the Better Business Bureau of Central Florida that challenges its rating system, accuses it of false advertising and seeks unspecified damages for alleged business defamation.&#8221; The firm of Kaufman, Englett and Lynd contends the BBB&#8217;s evaluations are misleading, [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/02/law-firm-sues-over-poor-better-business-bureau-rating/">Law firm sues over poor Better Business Bureau rating</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stung by a dismal mark last year, the KEL law firm has filed a federal lawsuit against the Better Business Bureau of Central Florida that challenges its rating system, accuses it of false advertising and seeks unspecified damages for alleged business defamation.&#8221; The firm of Kaufman, Englett and Lynd contends the BBB&#8217;s evaluations are misleading, biased, erroneous and otherwise flawed. [<a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-kel-firm-sues-better-business-20120222,0,540526.story">Orlando Sentinel</a>] </p>
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		<title>&#8220;Man has no right to ex-girlfriend&#8217;s lottery winnings, judge rules&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A Seminole County man who sued his ex-girlfriend for half of her $1 million Florida Lottery winnings went away empty-handed Tuesday, her attorney said.&#8221; [Orlando Sentinel] Tweet Tags: Florida, lottery</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/02/man-has-no-right-to-ex-girlfriends-lottery-winnings-judge-rules/">&#8220;Man has no right to ex-girlfriend&#8217;s lottery winnings, judge rules&#8221;</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A Seminole County man who sued his ex-girlfriend for half of her $1 million Florida Lottery winnings went away empty-handed Tuesday, her attorney said.&#8221; [<a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-lottery-lawsuit-20120207,0,147379.story">Orlando Sentinel</a>] </p>
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