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		<title>Labor and employment law roundup</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 04:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Gov. Walker&#8217;s public sector labor reforms popular with Wisconsin voters, and have saved taxpayers a fortune [Morrissey, Fund, Marquette poll (public favors new law by 50-43 margin] What would FDR say? [Dalmia, The Daily] &#8220;Why you should stop attending diversity training&#8221; [Suzanne Lucas, CBS MarketWatch, following up on our earlier post] The gang that couldn&#8217;t [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/05/labor-and-employment-law-roundup-7/">Labor and employment law roundup</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
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<li>Gov. Walker&#8217;s public sector labor reforms popular with Wisconsin voters, and have saved taxpayers a fortune [<a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/04/why-arent-wisconsin-democrats-running-against-walkers-peu-reforms/">Morrissey</a>, <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/300833/walkers-reforms-good-policy-good-politics-john-fund">Fund</a>, <a href="https://law.marquette.edu/poll/2012/05/16/marquette-law-school-poll-shows-walker-kleefisch-lead-in-recall/">Marquette poll</a> (public favors new law by 50-43 margin] What would FDR say? [Dalmia, <a href="http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/05/03/050312-opinions-column-scott-walker-dalmia-1-3/">The Daily</a>]  </li>
<li>&#8220;Why you should stop attending diversity training&#8221; [<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500395_162-57425771/why-you-should-stop-attending-diversity-training/">Suzanne Lucas, CBS MarketWatch</a>, following up on our <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/04/diversity-training-doesnt-work/">earlier post</a>]  </li>
<li> The gang that couldn&#8217;t regulate straight: &#8220;Court rebuffs Labor Department on sales rep overtime&#8221; [<a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2012/05/09/court-rebuffs-labor-dept-on-sales-rep-overtime/">Dan Fisher, Forbes</a>] Lack of quorum trips up NLRB on &#8220;quickie&#8221;/ambush elections scheme [<a href="http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/laborprof_blog/2012/05/another-court-strikes-down-the-nlrbs-new-election-rules.html">Workplace Prof</a>]   </li>
<li>Not all claimed &#8220;gun rights&#8221; are authentic, some come at expense of the vital principle of at-will employment [<a href="http://www.professorbainbridge.com/professorbainbridgecom/2012/04/guns-versus-at-will-employment.html">Bainbridge</a>]  </li>
<li>Brace yourself, legal academics at work on a Restatement of Employment Law [<a href="http://employerslawyer.blogspot.com/2012/05/somewhere-in-smoke-filled-room-your.html">Michael Fox</a>]   </li>
<li>&#8220;Why Delaware&#8217;s Proposed Workplace Privacy Act Is All Wrong&#8221; [<a href="http://www.delawareemploymentlawblog.com/2012/05/why-delawares-proposed-workplace-privacy-act-gets-it-all-wrong.html">Molly DiBianca</a>]
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<li>USA Today on lawyers&#8217; role in growth of Social Security disability rolls [<a href="http://www.futureofcapitalism.com/2012/02/usa-today-on-disabled-america">Ira Stoll</a>]</li>
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		<title>California&#8217;s court-developed Stand Your Ground law</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Bob Egelko of the San Francisco Chronicle has an excellent report on California&#8217;s longstanding recognition of Stand Your Ground self-defense principles in public places, which developed through judicial rather than legislative action. He reports that &#8220;even Californians who illegally carry handguns can invoke the stand-your-ground doctrine, as shown in a 2005 ruling by a state [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/04/californias-court-developed-stand-your-ground-law/">California&#8217;s court-developed Stand Your Ground law</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Egelko of the San Francisco Chronicle has an <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/14/BA2J1O3418.DTL">excellent report</a> on California&#8217;s longstanding recognition of Stand Your Ground self-defense principles in public places, which developed through judicial rather than legislative action. He reports that &#8220;even Californians who illegally carry handguns can invoke the stand-your-ground doctrine, as shown in a 2005 ruling by a state appeals court in Santa Ana.&#8221; By contrast, compare the misleading-at-best map run in Wednesday&#8217;s <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304818404577350291211783100.html">news-side Wall Street Journal</a>, which purports to show states with &#8220;stand your ground laws in place&#8221; but treats California as not having one. The WSJ lists its sources for the map as &#8220;Association of Prosecuting Attorneys; Legal Community Against Violence; National Conference of State Legislatures.&#8221; Perhaps the paper was relying overmuch on input from anti-gun groups that have sought to portray Stand Your Ground as a novelty foisted on state legislatures in recent years, thus underplaying the doctrine&#8217;s deep historical roots in much of America.  </p>
<p>Notwithstanding tendentious efforts to politicize the issue of late, it&#8217;s also worth noting that leading Democratic governors like Janet Napolitano (Arizona) and Jennifer Granholm (Michigan) were among those to sign Stand Your Ground laws in the post-2005 wave of new legislative adoptions [<a href="http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/14/janet-napolitano-also-signed-stand-your-ground">Hawkins, Breitbart</a>] Earlier on Stand Your Ground <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/dont-rush-to-repeal-stand-your-ground-laws/">here</a>, <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/stand-your-ground-laws-contd/">here</a>, <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/will-stand-your-ground-change-the-outcome-of-the-martinzimmerman-case/">here</a>, <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/04/podcast-on-stand-your-ground-laws/">here</a>, <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/04/washington-post-keeps-missing-point-on-stand-your-ground/">here</a>, <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/04/zimmerman-in-custody-charged-with-second-degree-murder/">here</a>, etc. </p>
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		<title>Labor and employment roundup</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 04:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Increasing Employment Discrimination Awards to Take Account of Adverse Tax Consequences&#8221; [TaxProf] NRA&#8217;s wrong on this: &#8220;Bill to bar employer bias against gun owners gets OK from Missouri House&#8221; [St. Louis Post-Dispatch] ALJ: &#8220;we are an at-will employer&#8221; handbook statement violates NLRA [Duane Morris Institute] &#8220;What the EEOC&#8217;s Strategic Plan Means for Employers&#8221; [Laura Harshbarger, [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/04/labor-and-employment-roundup-2/">Labor and employment roundup</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
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<li>&#8220;Increasing Employment Discrimination Awards to Take Account of Adverse Tax Consequences&#8221; [<a href="http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2012/03/increasing-.html">TaxProf</a>] </li>
<li> NRA&#8217;s wrong on this: &#8220;Bill to bar employer bias against gun owners gets OK from Missouri House&#8221; [<a href="http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/bill-to-bar-employer-bias-against-gun-owners-gets-ok/article_b1352fe5-d418-54cb-a8df-626428565de7.html">St. Louis Post-Dispatch</a>]  </li>
<li> ALJ: &#8220;we are an at-will employer&#8221; handbook statement violates NLRA [<a href="http://blogs.duanemorrisinstitute.com/jsegal/entry/breathe_deeply_before_you_read1">Duane Morris Institute</a>] </li>
<li>&#8220;What the EEOC&#8217;s Strategic Plan Means for Employers&#8221; [<a href="http://www.nylaborandemploymentlawreport.com/2012/03/articles/employment-discrimination/what-the-eeocs-strategic-plan-means-for-employers/">Laura Harshbarger, NYLELR</a>]  </li>
<li>Connecticut bill would require public schools to teach organized labor history [<a href="http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillstatus/cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill&#038;bill_num=SB00304&#038;which_year=2012">Raised S.B. No. 304</a>; <a href="http://www.cga.ct.gov/2012/EDdata/Tmy/2012SB-00304-R000305-Steve%20Kass-TMY.PDF">background</a> from a supporter, PDF; h/t Fountain]
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<li>SEIU hand seen in &#8220;Occupy&#8221;-allied sit-ins targeting GOP politicians [<a href="http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/05/secretive-nationwide-network-gives-seiu-new-organizing-muscle/">Richard Pollack, Daily Caller</a>]  </li>
<li> Wage and Hour Litigation is Big—and Getting Bigger&#8221; [<a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202546026856">Shannon Green, Corporate Counsel</a>]  </li>
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		<title>Stand Your Ground laws, cont&#8217;d</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>A media organization has asked me to take a closer look at the controversy over Florida&#8217;s Stand Your Ground (SYG) law, and I&#8217;ll be working on that over the next day or two. In the mean time, here are a few links you might want to check out if you&#8217;re following the controversy (earlier): Florida&#8217;s [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/stand-your-ground-laws-contd/">Stand Your Ground laws, cont&#8217;d</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A media organization has asked me to take a closer look at the controversy over Florida&#8217;s Stand Your Ground (SYG) law, and I&#8217;ll be working on that over the next day or two. In the mean time, here are a few links you might want to check out if you&#8217;re following the controversy (<a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/dont-rush-to-repeal-stand-your-ground-laws/">earlier</a>): </p>
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<li>Florida&#8217;s law on justifiable use of force, including the 2005 SYG changes, is <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&#038;URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html">here</a>. As usual, there is no substitute for reading the statute if you want to know how it works. Links to other state SYG laws are <a href="http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/03/23-other-states-have-stand-your-ground-laws-too/50226/">here</a>. </li>
<li>Michael Mannheimer at PrawfsBlawg <a href="http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2012/03/trayvon-martin-and-floridas-stand-your-ground-law.html">points out</a> that some of the law&#8217;s reputed new burdens on prosecutors aren&#8217;t in fact new:<br />
<blockquote><p>First, some have pointed out that, in Florida, the prosecution has the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant did not act in self-defense, assuming the defendant has adduced sufficient evidence to present a jury question. But this is true in virtually every State: last I checked, only Ohio and South Carolina require a defendant to shoulder the burden of persuasion on self-defense. Some have pointed out that when a defendant claims self-defense in a homicide prosecution, the State has lost its best witness and the jury therefore hears only one side of the story. But this is true in any homicide case. &#8230; </p>
<p>So what are we left with that distinguishes Florida&#8217;s law? Well, obviously there is the &#8220;stand your ground&#8221; provision which eliminates the common-law duty to retreat. But the law in America has always been ambivalent about the duty to retreat, with about half the States at any given time recognizing the duty to retreat and about half abrogating it. This is not a new development. Moreover, even where there is no duty to retreat, it is still a requirement that the defendant reasonably believed that deadly force was necessary to prevent the imminent use of deadly physical force. And even in a retreat jurisdiction, the prosecution generally must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant knew he could retreat with complete safety. So, in practice, there is not a whole lot of daylight between retreat and no-retreat jurisdictions. &#8230; </p></blockquote>
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<li>But Mannheimer also points to a more significant difference in the 2005 law, namely that the self-defense justification is couched as an <em>immunity</em> rather than as a <em>defense</em> to be raised at trial. This distinction does accord a significant advantage to some defendants, especially where prosecutors hold a factually weak hand at the outset. &#8220;Meg&#8221; from Cambridge, among the few constructive voices amid the NYT comments section&#8217;s baying mob, makes a similar point <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/03/21/do-stand-your-ground-laws-encourage-vigilantes/due-process-will-test-a-self-defense-claim?comments#permid=1">here</a>. </li>
<li>And a number of commentators raise plausible objections to details of the SYG legislation which do not appear relevant to whether George Zimmerman can escape prosecution for shooting Trayvon Martin.  Thus Adam Winkler <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/03/21/do-stand-your-ground-laws-encourage-vigilantes/what-the-florida-stand-your-ground-law-says">questions</a> whether immunity should extend to situations where the user of deadly force acted in reasonable fear of lethal danger or forcible felony aimed at some third person other than himself (it would appear Zimmerman asserted danger-to-himself, not danger-to-third-parties, at the police station). And Anthony Sebok, writing at the time of the law&#8217;s passage, <a href="http://writ.news.findlaw.com/sebok/20050502.html">sharply criticizes</a> the law&#8217;s expansion of immunity in home and car scenarios, again not at issue in the Martin case.</li>
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<p>All of which is by way of clearing the decks for a closer examination of the provisions of SYG that do relate to Zimmerman&#8217;s claim of immunity, which will have to wait for a later post.</p>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t rush to repeal &#8220;Stand Your Ground&#8221; laws</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The New York Times invited me to participate in a &#8220;Room for Debate&#8221; discussion of Florida&#8217;s controversial &#8220;Stand Your Ground&#8221; self-defense law, and my contribution is here. I elaborate on some of the issues at stake &#8212; including the failure of Florida&#8217;s violent crime rate to rise as predicted under the law &#8212; in this [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/dont-rush-to-repeal-stand-your-ground-laws/">Don&#8217;t rush to repeal &#8220;Stand Your Ground&#8221; laws</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New York Times invited me to participate in a &#8220;Room for Debate&#8221; <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/03/21/do-stand-your-ground-laws-encourage-vigilantes">discussion</a> of Florida&#8217;s controversial &#8220;Stand Your Ground&#8221; self-defense law, and my contribution is <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/03/21/do-stand-your-ground-laws-encourage-vigilantes/due-process-will-test-a-self-defense-claim">here</a>. I elaborate on some of the issues at stake &#8212; including the failure of Florida&#8217;s violent crime rate to rise as predicted under the law &#8212; in <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/in-defense-of-stand-your-ground-laws/">this Cato post</a> (<strong>&#038; welcome</strong> <a href="http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/139430/">Instapundit</a>, <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/agenda/294220/very-brief-note-trayvon-martin-shooting-reihan-salam">Reihan Salam/NRO</a>, <a href="http://www.insideronline.org/blogarchive.cfm?month=3&#038;year=2012#3BC192FC-5056-B712-669BB1CF2C879A13">Alex Adrianson/Insider Online</a>, <a href="http://allergic2bull.blogspot.com/2012/03/trayvon-martin-shooting-roundup.html">Aaron Worthing</a>, <a href="http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/rush-to-judgment-on-george-zimmerman-reminiscent-of-mob-behavior">David Codrea</a> readers). </p>
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		<title>Ontario: dad arrested after 4 year old draws picture of gun</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The trouble began at school in Kitchener, Ontario, when a 4-year-old girl drew a picture of her father, Jessie Sansone, with a gun in his hand. When asked about the gun in the picture, according to police, the girl said her siblings played with it and that it scared her. &#8220;The school principal, police and [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/02/ontario-dad-arrested-after-4-year-old-draws-picture-of-gun/">Ontario: dad arrested after 4 year old draws picture of gun</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble began at school in Kitchener, Ontario, when a 4-year-old girl drew a picture of her father, Jessie Sansone, with a gun in his hand. When asked about the gun in the picture, according to police, the girl said her siblings played with it and that it scared her. &#8220;The school principal, police and child welfare officials&#8230; said they had to investigate to determine whether there was a gun in Sansone’s house that children had access to.&#8221; And apparently that &#8220;investigation&#8221; had to involve detaining and strip-searching Sansone when he showed up at school to pick up his daughter, searching his home, and spiriting away his other children to Family and Children&#8217;s Services to be interviewed. Sansone was told he was being charged with possession of a firearm &#8212; from the article&#8217;s context, an offense in itself in that Second-Amendment-less locality. When police searched the Sansone home, they found &#8220;a clear plastic toy gun that shoots soft plastic biodegradable BBs and retails for around $20 at Walmart&#8221; and he was released without charges.  [<a href="http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/676150--man-shocked-by-arrest-after-daughter-draws-picture-of-gun">The Record</a>; <a href="http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/02/24/joe-oconnor-arrest-over-daughters-gun-sketch-a-case-of-vigilance-and-too-much-zeal/">Joe O'Connor, National Post</a>] </p>
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		<title>Gun shows are nests of lawbreaking! Or maybe not</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a new post up at Cato at Liberty drawing a few conclusions from the ignominious collapse of the Department of Justice&#8217;s Africa Sting prosecution under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA)(&#038; Gun News Daily, KeepAndBearArms.com). P.S.: WSJ editorial on the subject; responsive letter from former prosecutor Richard Beckler. Tweet Tags: Foreign Corrupt Practices [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/02/gun-shows-are-nests-of-lawbreaking-or-maybe-not/">Gun shows are nests of lawbreaking! Or maybe not</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/the-rise-and-fall-of-dojs-gun-show-sting/">new post up at Cato at Liberty</a> drawing a few conclusions from the ignominious collapse of the Department of Justice&#8217;s Africa Sting prosecution under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA)(<strong>&#038;</strong> <a href="http://gunnewsdaily.com/index.php/article-archives/983-25-february-2012-gun-news-headlines">Gun News Daily</a>, <a href="http://keepandbeararms.com/news/nl/disp.asp?d=2/25/2012">KeepAndBearArms.com</a>). </p>
<p><strong>P.S.</strong>: WSJ <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203711104577199412696071528.html?mod=googlenews_wsj#articleTabs=article">editorial on the subject</a>; responsive <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204880404577227914160080108.html">letter</a> from former prosecutor Richard Beckler.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Do Not Point Gun At Own Face&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Kevin at Lowering the Bar wonders whether there&#8217;s a need for a California-specific warning. Tweet Tags: California, failure to warn, guns</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/02/do-not-point-gun-at-own-face/">&#8220;Do Not Point Gun At Own Face&#8221;</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin at Lowering the Bar wonders whether there&#8217;s a need for a <a href="http://www.loweringthebar.net/2012/02/a-brief-lesson-on-the-law-of-design-defect.html">California-specific warning</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Because judges should decide cases the way clamoring crowds want them to: &#8220;Occupy the Courts&#8221; [Althouse, Somin, earlier] Pittsburgh lawprof: bank&#8217;s office park has become public forum and is ours to seize [Daily Caller] Some reactions to Megaupload indictment [Julian Sanchez, Ken at Popehat] Kozinski, others trade quips at oral argument in Disneyland Segway ADA [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/01/january-21-roundup-3/">January 21 roundup</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
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<li>Because judges should decide cases the way clamoring crowds want them to: &#8220;Occupy the Courts&#8221; [<a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/01/occupy-courts-protests-hit-us-supreme.html">Althouse</a>, <a href="http://volokh.com/2012/01/20/occupy-wall-street-and-popular-constitutionalism/">Somin</a>, <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/01/january-18-roundup-4/">earlier</a>] Pittsburgh lawprof: bank&#8217;s office park has become public forum and is ours to seize [<a href="http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/11/pittsburgh-bank-we-let-occupy-use-park-because-we-were-frightened/">Daily Caller</a>]  </li>
<li>Some reactions to Megaupload indictment  [<a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/fbi-reminds-us-government-already-has-megapower-to-take-down-websites/">Julian Sanchez</a>, <a href="http://www.popehat.com/2012/01/20/a-few-notes-by-a-federal-criminal-practitioner-on-the-megaupload-indictment/">Ken at Popehat</a>]   </li>
<li>Kozinski, others trade quips at oral argument in Disneyland Segway ADA case  [<a href="http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/01/16/43084.htm">Courthouse News</a> via Disabilities Law, <a href="http://overlawyered.com/?s=disney+segway">earlier</a>]  &#8220;Ouch! Judge Posner eviscerates both a damages expert and the trial judge who let him testify against FedEx&#8221; [<a href="http://www.lawnotes.com/ouch-judge-posner-eviscerates-both-a-damages-expert-and-the-trial-judge-who-let-him-testify-against-fedex/">Technology Law Notes</a>]  </li>
<li>Victim of NYC gun laws: &#8220;Free Meredith Graves&#8221; [<a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/288599/marine-nurse-and-injustice-editors">NRO</a>]  &#8220;NYC Business Bled To Death Over Toy Guns&#8221; [<a href="http://moonbattery.com/?p=6973">Moonbattery</a>]  </li>
<li>&#8220;Old Enough to Fight, Old Enough to Swipe: A Critique of the Infancy Rule in the Federal Credit Card Act&#8221; [Andrew Schwartz (Colorado), <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1973116">SSRN</a>, via <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2012/01/adverse-effects-of-card-acts-limits-on-freedom-of-contract.php">Ted Frank</a>]  </li>
<li>Federal drug cops unapologetic about role in Adderall shortage [<a href="http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/the-war-on-drugs-is-keeping-perfectly-legal-medicine-away-from-sick-people/">Rob Port</a>]  A failure of central planning [<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/01/03/shortage-adhd-drug-adderall-persists/">Reuters</a>, <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2011/12/28/why-is-there-an-adderall-shortage-becaus">Jacob Sullum</a> and <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2012/01/03/does-the-dea-know-what-quota-means">more</a> ("Does the DEA know what 'quota' means?")] Some trial lawyers pushing to ban the drug [<a href="http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/adderall/interview-adderall-heart-attack-stroke-17286.html">via Ted Frank</a>].  </li>
<li>Go, my child, and steal no more: TSA agents who pilfered $40K from luggage get six months [<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/AP5342f284c21c434e92bf300d1a67c3ca.html">AP</a> via Balko]  </li>
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		<title>Steals gun, hurts himself with it</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>But the estate of a Massachusetts man killed in an apparent accident when the gun went off was not allowed to sue the owner and gun manufacturer. [Volokh] Tweet Tags: criminals who sue, guns, personal responsibility</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/01/steals-gun-hurts-himself-with-it/">Steals gun, hurts himself with it</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the estate of a Massachusetts man killed in an apparent accident when the gun went off was not allowed to sue the owner and gun manufacturer. [<a href="http://volokh.com/2012/01/06/felon-steals-gun-accidentally-kills-himself-estate-sues-owner-and-gun-manufacturer/">Volokh</a>]</p>
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