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	<title>Overlawyered &#187; John McCain</title>
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		<title>John McCain and &#8220;intentional&#8221; car crashes</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arizona Sen. John McCain is under fire for asserting on the Bill O&#8217;Reilly show that &#8220;the drivers of cars with illegals in it &#8230; are intentionally causing accidents on the freeway.&#8221; It would be natural to assume he was referring to the well-established &#8220;swoop-and-squat&#8221; racket described repeatedly in these columns &#8212; here, for instance. You [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arizona Sen. John McCain <a href="http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/azdc/78995">is under fire</a> for asserting on the Bill O&#8217;Reilly show that &#8220;the drivers of cars with illegals in it &#8230; are intentionally causing accidents on the freeway.&#8221; It would be natural to assume he was referring to the well-established &#8220;swoop-and-squat&#8221; racket described repeatedly in these columns &#8212; <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2005/11/la-lawyer-held-in-car-crash-fraud-ring/">here, for instance</a>. You might think illegal aliens would avoid these scams for fear of deportation, but you would be wrong: they are well represented among the participants. </p>
<p>I hold no brief for McCain, and I doubt very much that the workings of this particular criminal subculture should figure among the top twenty policy considerations in deciding how best to handle illegal immigration.  And if a Senate spokeswoman <a href="http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/azdc/78995">is to be credited</a>, McCain may actually had in mind the phenomenon of high-speed police chases &#8212; though it is far from clear why those crashes would ordinarily count as intentional. But <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_04/023423.php">blogger incredulity</a> about the idea that car crashes can ever be intentional seems misplaced. </p>

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		<title>Senate rejects CPSIA reform on budget vote, 39-58</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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Not long ago the U.S. Senate refused to accept an amendment to the stimulus bill by Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) that would have reformed some CPSIA provisions and delayed the implementation of others. Last night it rejected a similar DeMint effort in the form of a budget amendment, and this time there was a roll [...]]]></description>
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<p>Not long ago the U.S. Senate refused to accept an amendment to the stimulus bill by Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) that would have reformed some CPSIA provisions and delayed the implementation of others. Last night it rejected a similar DeMint effort in the form of a <a href="http://demint.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=JimsJournal.Detail&#038;Blog_ID=681d50c3-f69b-0d99-21eb-94b2d89a9be3">budget amendment</a>, and this time there was a <a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&#038;session=1&#038;vote=00151#position">roll call</a>, which confirmed that the rejection was largely along party lines: every Democrat voted against the measure except for Sens. <a href="http://begich.senate.gov/">Mark Begich</a> (Alaska), <a href="http://hagan.senate.gov/">Kay Hagan</a> (N.C.), <a href="http://klobuchar.senate.gov/">Amy Klobuchar</a> (Minn.), and <a href="http://bennelson.senate.gov/">Ben Nelson</a> (Neb.), while every Republican voted in favor except <a href="http://collins.senate.gov/public/">Susan Collins</a> (Maine), <a href="http://cornyn.senate.gov/public/">John Cornyn</a> (Tex.), <a href="http://johanns.senate.gov/public/index.cfm">Mike Johanns</a> (Neb.), <a href="http://martinez.senate.gov/public/">Mel Martinez</a> (Fla.), and <a href="http://mccain.senate.gov/public/">John McCain</a> (Ariz.). Independent Bernie Sanders (Vt.) voted against, while Sens. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) and Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) did not vote.</p>
<p>Following Wednesday&#8217;s rally on Capitol Hill, small business people who fanned out to visit their Senators brought back many encouraging-sounding stories of the favorable &#8220;We hear you!&#8221; &#8220;We get it!&#8221; reactions they had received visiting the offices of Democratic Senators like <a href="http://burris.senate.gov/">Roland Burris</a> (<a href="http://amendthecpsia.com/2009/04/from-the-field-good-meeting-with-burris-office/">Ill.</a>), <a href="http://lieberman.senate.gov/">Joseph Lieberman</a> (Conn.), <a href="http://merkley.senate.gov/">Jeff Merkley</a> (<a href="http://amendthecpsia.com/2009/03/positive-meeting-with-senator-merkley-of-oregon/">Ore.</a>), <a href="http://rockefeller.senate.gov/">Jay Rockefeller</a> (<a href="http://amendthecpsia.com/2009/03/update-on-meeting-with-david-strickland-from-sen-rockefellers-office/">W.Va.</a>), and <a href="http://schumer.senate.gov/">Charles Schumer</a> (<a href="http://twitter.com/rwoldenberg/statuses/1425258683">N.Y.</a>). Whether or not anyone in those offices hears or gets the outcry, it sounds as if the members even more clearly hear and get a different message: that of party discipline.</p>
<p>Kimberly Payne <a href="http://kimpayne.blogspot.com/2009/04/mixed-bag.html">feels oddly hopeful</a>: &#8220;The original vote on the CPSIA was nearly unanimous &#8211; this one was 39-58. I call that progress!&#8221;</p>
<p>The WSJ <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123872361943185291.html#mod=djemEditorialPage">editorializes</a> on the law again today, its third, concentrating this time on the youth motorcycle/ATV ban. <strong>More</strong>: Montana senators fiddle while small businesses perish (<a href="http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/article/cpsia_lead_law_-_a_pawn_in_partisan_chess_game/9350/">Mark Riffey, Flathead Beacon</a>); the rally and the Democrats (<a href="http://learningresourcesinc.blogspot.com/2009/04/cpsia-rally-and-democrats.html">Rick Woldenberg</a>).</p>
<p><small><strong>Public domain image</strong>: Yankee Mother Goose (1902), illustrator Ella S. Brison, courtesy <a href="http://www.childrenslibrary.org/icdl/BookPreview?bookid=cobyank_00870001&#038;route=all&#038;lang=English&#038;msg=&#038;ilang=English">ChildrensLibrary.org</a>.</small></p>

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		<title>Vicki Iseman settles New York Times suit</title>
		<link>http://overlawyered.com/2009/02/vicki-iseman-settles-new-york-times-suit/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both sides claim victory in the defamation action, which arose from insinuations the paper made about the lobbyist&#8217;s close ties to Arizona Sen. John McCain. [Calderone/Politico, earlier]

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both sides claim victory in the defamation action, which arose from insinuations the paper made about the lobbyist&#8217;s close ties to Arizona Sen. John McCain. [<a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/19057.html">Calderone/Politico</a>, <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2009/01/vicky-iseman-sues-new-york-times/">earlier</a>]</p>

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		<title>Vicki Iseman sues New York Times</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s plenty that can be said in criticism of the NYT&#8217;s campaign-season piece insinuating that the lobbyist was personally too close to Republican candidate John McCain. But did it really do her reputation $27 million in damage? (Blodget, AlleyInsider). Update Feb. 19: parties settle.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s plenty that can be said in criticism of the NYT&#8217;s campaign-season piece insinuating that the lobbyist was personally too close to Republican candidate John McCain. But did it really do her reputation $27 million in damage? (<a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/12/new-york-times-sued-over-mccain-affair-article">Blodget, AlleyInsider</a>). <strong>Update</strong> <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2009/02/vicki-iseman-settles-new-york-times-suit/">Feb. 19</a>: parties settle.</p>

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		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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McCain hoist on his own campaign regulation petard [WSJ edit] #
Conservatives should hold a retreat to talk about why they&#8217;re being sent to the wilderness [Friedersdorf/Culture11] #
Disability activism and &#8220;anti-national sexual positions&#8221;: just another day in postmodern academia [Massie] #
Unionism on steroids: Employee Free Choice Act would be Thatcherism in reverse [Claire Berlinski, City Journal] [...]]]></description>
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<li>McCain hoist on his own campaign regulation petard [<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122463110200556375.html?mod=djemEditorialPage">WSJ edit</a>] <a href="http://twitter.com/walterolson/statuses/970419720">#</a></li>
<li>Conservatives should hold a retreat to talk about why they&#8217;re being sent to the wilderness [<a href="http://culture11.com/blogs/theconfabulum/2008/10/22/conference-call/">Friedersdorf/Culture11</a>] <a href="http://twitter.com/walterolson/statuses/970423794">#</a></li>
<li>Disability activism and &#8220;anti-national sexual positions&#8221;: just another day in postmodern academia [<a href="http://www.debatableland.com/the_debatable_land/2008/10/department-of-academia.html">Massie</a>] <a href="http://twitter.com/walterolson/statuses/970432657">#</a></li>
<li>Unionism on steroids: Employee Free Choice Act would be Thatcherism in reverse [<a href="http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon1017cb.html">Claire Berlinski, City Journal</a>] <a href="http://twitter.com/walterolson/statuses/970676902">#</a></li>
<li>Here&#8217;s a twist: a politician walking over his ambition to reach his grandmother <a href="http://twitter.com/walterolson/statuses/969475965">#</a></li>
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		<title>In which I get called &#8220;Thought Police&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 04:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Note: see important update/P.S. at end].
As you may recall, I wrote a piece last week for City Journal taking issue with various calls around the liberal blogosphere for having the McCain-Palin campaign investigated or even prosecuted for supposed incitement to violence against its opponents (a charge for which credible evidence appears severely lacking in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[<strong>Note</strong>: <em>see important update/P.S. at end</em>].</p>
<p>As you <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/10/mccain-and-palin-guilty-of-criminal-incitement/">may recall</a>, I <a href="http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon1015wo.html">wrote a piece last week for City Journal</a> taking issue with various calls around the liberal blogosphere for having the McCain-Palin campaign investigated or even prosecuted for supposed incitement to violence against its opponents (a charge for which credible evidence appears severely lacking in the first place).  Along the way, I criticized a <a href="http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/10/criminal_respon_1.html">Concurring Opinions post</a> by University of South Carolina associate professor Susan Kuo in which Kuo first endorsed the charge that the Republicans were engaged in &#8220;character assassination&#8221; and &#8220;peddling fear, hate, and outrage to an audience that appears highly susceptible to this message&#8221; and then helpfully laid out potential theories under which criminal liability might be assigned to inflammatory campaign speech of such a sort. I said I found it bizarre that Kuo entirely omitted mention of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and went on to cite a <a href="http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/nurember.htm">relatively recent (1982) case in which</a> a unanimous Court had cited the First Amendment as protecting even fairly extreme language of incitement which was soon thereafter followed by actual violence. These circumstances, I concluded, virtually ensure that no American court would countenance a prosecution of McCain, Palin, or their campaign staffs for incitement on current evidence absent a rapid and spectacular change in Constitutional jurisprudence from its present stance. </p>
<p>Now Professor Kuo has responded in a new post at Concurring Opinions <a href="http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/10/the_bizarre_tho.html#comments">by calling me names</a>. She writes that it was predictable that &#8220;the Thought Police&#8221; &#8212; she links that phrase to my piece &#8212; would quickly emerge to &#8220;chastise&#8221; her &#8220;for committing crimethink&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Before turning to this amazing charge and unpacking its heavy freight of irony, let&#8217;s dispose briefly of a couple of Kuo&#8217;s incidental points. First, she claims I champion the idea that &#8220;the mere existence of the First Amendment invalidates the notion of criminal liability for political speech&#8221;. In fact, as even a hurried reading of my post should have revealed, I made just the opposite point: I noted that there are some circumstances (such as, but not necessarily limited to, intent to incite violence combined with co-ordination with those who commit the bad acts) where notwithstanding the Amendment political speech can cross a line into crime. I also noted that reasonable minds could differ about whether the Supreme Court drew the line on incitement in the right place in its 1982 case. In short, Kuo attributes to me an extreme position of her own invention. </p>
<p>Kuo also suggests that her post merely laid out a hypothetical (or &#8220;thought experiment&#8221;) about what the law might do as opposed to prescribing what it should do. I have no problem with hypotheticals and have been known to use them myself, recognizing that they can be (though I don&#8217;t think they were in this case) a bracingly non-normative device in which the actual prescriptive views of the narrator are irrelevant or impossible to discern. I simply think this hypothetical was rendered both bizarre and misleading by its omission of the First Amendment, by which the courts of this land have greatly curtailed the scope of criminal liability for incitement. </p>
<p>Now back to the question of who should get tagged with the dismissive Orwell-invoking cliche &#8220;Thought Police&#8221;. Let&#8217;s review the bidding. Sarah Palin and GOP surrogates stir up controversy by using blunt and divisive language to question Barack Obama&#8217;s judgment in the Bill Ayers matter. Voices around the liberal blogosphere then call for Palin &#038; Co. to be criminally investigated and even prosecuted for riding this campaign issue too hard. Kuo, <a href="http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/10/criminal_respon_1.html#more">entering the debate</a>, does <em>not</em> call <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/index.php/2008/10/14/at-what-point-does-the-secret-service-shut-this-down/">these</a> <a href="http://sethabramson.blogspot.com/2008/10/opinion-following-death-threat-against.html">bloggers</a> and <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-feldman/is-palin-trying-to-incite_b_132534.html">Huffington Post</a> <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-kearney/the-secret-service-should_b_134052.html">writers</a> &#8220;Thought Police&#8221; for suggesting that speech that offends them be subject to legal sanction, but instead conveys their views uncritically if not sympathetically. She then takes up her hypothetical of possible enforcement action against McPalin, outlining theories under which prosecutors might bring such charges and judges might agree to impose punishment, but does <em>not</em> label these hypothetical prosecutors or judges &#8220;Thought Police&#8221; for punishing the impassioned expression of political opinion. No, the only time the Thought Police make an entrance at all is after the fact, when someone presumes to criticize <em>her</em>. Only then does she detect, with fearful intake of breath, the sound of the hobnailed boots ascending the stairs. And it turns out to be that scary libertarian bogeyman, me!</p>
<p>I suppose I should take offense, but I haven&#8217;t managed to get past the comic aspect (<strong>&#038;</strong> <a href="http://legalblogwatch.typepad.com/legal_blog_watch/2008/10/weekend-round-u.html">Ambrogi, Legal Blog Watch</a>). </p>
<p><strong>Important P.S.:</strong> I heard from Prof. Kuo herself this afternoon and we had a talk that was pleasant and in no way confrontational. She said her second post, to which this one responds, was dashed off in a spirit of light-hearted banter and that the last thing she meant was to call names or give insult. Obviously, it came across differently to me, and I reacted as one might to a seriously meant attack.  As I noted, almost everyone who blogs has had the experience of writing something intended as funny that fails to register that way with part or all of the audience. And it&#8217;s probably also true that, as someone tender of my libertarian credentials, I&#8217;m especially apt to have my buttons pushed by any suggestion of being cast as Thought Police. Anyway, I&#8217;m glad to take Prof. Kuo at her word when she says she meant no offense, and I hope commenters at this site as well as Concurring Opinions will do the same (see also <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/10/not-thought-police-after-all/">update post</a>). </p>

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		<title>Alcohol wholesaling laws</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Laws in most states ordain an artificial niche for the business of beer and liquor wholesaling, and it gets worse: 
Some states, for example, give wholesalers exclusive rights to distribute alcohol in a particular region, effectively creating government-enforced monopolies. Other states (including Arizona) have enacted “franchise termination laws,” which make it more difficult for retailers [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laws in most states ordain an artificial niche for the business of beer and liquor wholesaling, and it gets worse: </p>
<blockquote><p>Some states, for example, give wholesalers exclusive rights to distribute alcohol in a particular region, effectively creating government-enforced monopolies. Other states (including Arizona) have enacted “franchise termination laws,” which make it more difficult for retailers and/or producers to switch distributors once they’ve started doing business with one. Producers and/or retailers get locked in. If they feel their existing distributor is taking too much of a markup, isn’t offering a wide enough variety, or is otherwise performing poorly, there&#8217;s little they can do.</p></blockquote>
<p>(Radley Balko, &#8220;How Your Beer Bought John McCain&#8217;s $500 Loafers&#8221;, Reason, <a href="http://www.reason.com/news/show/129476.html">Oct. 15</a>). Cited in the article is an Independent Institute monograph by Glen Whitman, &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Strange-Brew-Alcohol-Government-Monopoly/dp/0945999887/ref=si3_rdr_bb_product">Strange Brew: Alcohol and Government Monopoly</a>&#8220;, which sounds like it&#8217;s worth reading on the subject.</p>

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		<title>Election-season YouTube takedowns</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[They seem now to be part of the accepted armament of campaign law. &#8220;Of course the McCain-Palin team could counter-notify, but the DMCA&#8217;s 10-14 business day waiting period makes that option next to useless, when &#8216;10 days can be a lifetime in a political campaign.&#8217;&#8221; (Seltzer/Citizen Media Law, Levy/CL&#038;P; but see Ron Coleman, Oct. 15: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They seem now to be part of the accepted armament of campaign law. &#8220;Of course the McCain-Palin team could counter-notify, but the DMCA&#8217;s 10-14 business day waiting period makes that option next to useless, when &#8216;10 days can be a lifetime in a political campaign.&#8217;&#8221; (<a href="http://www.citmedialaw.org/blog/2008/mccains-youtube-takedowns-inspire-fair-use-fervor">Seltzer/Citizen Media Law</a>, <a href="http://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2008/10/abusive-copyrig.html">Levy/CL&#038;P</a>; but see Ron Coleman, <a href="http://www.likelihoodofconfusion.com/?p=1675">Oct. 15</a>: process need not be as slow as waiting period implies). </p>
<p><strong>Related</strong>: Does trademark law allow candidates to suppress some types of opposition keyword advertising, as when candidates put up negative ads keyed to each others&#8217; names? [<a href="http://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2008/10/presidential-ca.html">Levy/CL&#038;P</a>]</p>

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		<title>McCain and Palin guilty of &#8220;criminal incitement&#8221;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Cross-posted from Point of Law]. I&#8217;ve got a new piece just up at City Journal in which I examine last week&#8217;s boomlet of interest around the liberal blogosphere in the notion that by riling up campaign crowds about Obama&#8217;s links to Bill Ayers, John McCain and (especially) Sarah Palin have engaged in &#8220;incitement to violence&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Cross-posted from <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/10/criminalizing-n.php">Point of Law</a>]. I&#8217;ve got a <a href="http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon1015wo.html">new piece just up at City Journal</a> in which I examine last week&#8217;s boomlet of interest around the liberal blogosphere in the notion that by riling up campaign crowds about Obama&#8217;s links to Bill Ayers, John McCain and (especially) Sarah Palin have engaged in &#8220;incitement to violence&#8221; of a &#8220;borderline criminal&#8221; nature that perhaps should even draw the attention of the Secret Service or FBI. (For examples of this boomlet, look among the several hundred occurrences of <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/palin+incite?authority=n&#038;language=n">&#8220;Palin + incite&#8221;</a> at Technorati between October 7 and 13; I also include a sampling as links in my piece). The article originated in a short <a href="http://www.pointoflaw.com/archives/2008/10/campaign-civili.php">post at Point of Law</a> that City Journal asked me to expand into a longer treatment. I must say I find it fascinating that <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/index.php/2008/10/14/at-what-point-does-the-secret-service-shut-this-down/">many</a> <a href="http://sethabramson.blogspot.com/2008/10/opinion-following-death-threat-against.html">bloggers</a>, <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-feldman/is-palin-trying-to-incite_b_132534.html">Huffington Post</a> <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-kearney/the-secret-service-should_b_134052.html">writers</a>, etc. could so casually jettison the hard-won victories of free-speech liberalism, which fought long and hard against &#8220;incitement&#8221; theories by which criminal penalties might be applied to inflammatory speech. The idea of exposing your opponents to investigation or even arrest because you don&#8217;t approve of the contents of their speeches doesn&#8217;t seem like a particularly liberal one to me.</p>
<p><strong>More</strong>: <a href="http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/index.php/punditry/penalizing_political_speech/">Stephen Bainbridge</a> takes note.</p>

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