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		<title>Krugman, Brady, and Stand Your Ground laws</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I mostly ignore the frothings of Paul Krugman in the New York Times, but his column today pursues a logic that&#8217;s insane even for him: in an attack on the right-of-center American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), he proposes that Stand Your Ground (SYG) laws tie into a trend of &#8220;growing incarceration&#8221; intended to line the [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/krugman-brady-and-stand-your-ground-laws/">Krugman, Brady, and Stand Your Ground laws</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mostly ignore the frothings of Paul Krugman in the New York Times, but his column today pursues a logic that&#8217;s insane even for him: in an attack on the right-of-center American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), he <a href="http://nyti.ms/H7CyaK">proposes</a> that Stand Your Ground (SYG) laws tie into a trend of &#8220;growing incarceration&#8221; intended to line the coffers of private prison contractors. Earth to Krugman: SYG laws bolster criminal defendants&#8217; rights, and your colleagues at the Times <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2012/03/21/the-new-york-times-on-stand-your-ground">have been complaining</a> that as a result it&#8217;s too <em>hard</em> for prosecutors to send people to prison for long terms. Next time, could you stop and think before hitting the send button?</p>
<p>In the opinion piece I&#8217;m finishing up, I expect to argue that as more facts emerge about the Feb. 26 Martin/Zimmerman confrontation, the 2005 changes to Florida self-defense law known as Stand Your Ground are looking less and less likely to control the legal outcome of the case. Along those lines, I notice in Friday&#8217;s <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/the-political-battle-over-stand-your-ground-laws/2012/03/22/gIQAVcJ2VS_blog.html">Washington Post</a> what I read as a straw in the wind: </p>
<blockquote><p>“We’ve never thought by itself that the law is the main issue,” said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. “What we think is the main issue is the mentality that that law provides.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm. So despite hundreds of press assertions to the contrary in the past week, the actual content of the Florida law (as opposed to its supposed furtherance of a vague &#8220;mentality&#8221;) doesn&#8217;t turn out to be the main issue after all. Earlier <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/dont-rush-to-repeal-stand-your-ground-laws/">here</a> and <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2012/03/stand-your-ground-laws-contd/">here</a> (<strong>&#038;</strong> <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2012/03/26/paul-krugman-stand-your-ground-laws-incr">Reason</a>).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t miss related analysis from Eugene Volokh on the <a href="http://volokh.com/2012/03/24/lethal-self-defense-the-quantum-of-proof-the-duty-to-retreat-and-the-aggressor-exception/">scope of the self-defense justification</a> in American criminal law and <a href="http://volokh.com/2012/03/24/can-the-police-arrest-someone-for-homicide-when-its-clear-he-killed-but-likely-in-self-defense/">the standards for probable cause</a> in arresting someone who claims that justification. And Jennifer Rubin weighs in at <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/is-it-too-much-to-expect-to-get-the-facts-first/2012/03/24/gIQApysHYS_blog.html">Washington Post &#8220;Right Turn&#8221;</a> (quoting me). <strong>More</strong>: <a href="http://blog.simplejustice.us/2012/03/26/stand-or-retreat-a-hard-choice.aspx?ref=rss">Scott Greenfield</a>, <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/chi-should-stand-your-ground-law-stand-20120323,0,697667.story">Steve Chapman</a>.</a></p>
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		<title>Paul Krugman and tainted tomatoes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The Times columnist&#8217;s rants on the supposed collapse in food safety (which he keeps blaming on, of all people, Milton Friedman) appear to be not well borne out by the actual numbers (Alex Tabarrok, Jun. 13). Tweet Tags: food safety, Paul Krugman</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/06/paul-krugman-and-tainted-tomatoes/">Paul Krugman and tainted tomatoes</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Times columnist&#8217;s rants on the supposed collapse in food safety (which he keeps blaming on, of all people, Milton Friedman) appear to be not well borne out by the actual numbers (Alex Tabarrok, <a href="http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2008/06/krugman-gets-a.html">Jun. 13</a>). </p>
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		<title>Paul Krugman on obesity, cont&#8217;d</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Times columnist&#8217;s paternalist rants, of which we took unfavorable notice <a href="http://www.overlawyered.com/archives/002512.html">on Friday</a>, have run into a buzzsaw of scathing commentary around the blogosphere, notably from <a href="http://www.qando.net/Details.aspx?Entry=2207">QandO</a> (&#8220;Government Into Our Kitchens!&#8221;), <a href="http://www.crescatsententia.org/archives/2005_07_09.html#005691">Will Baude</a>, and <a href="http://kipesquire.powerblogs.com/posts/1120844441.shtml">KipEsquire</a>.</p>
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