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		<title>&#8220;Not every human problem deserves a law&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 05:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>A veto message from Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown, after the California legislature passed a bill imposing a fine on children or their parents or guardians for skiing or snowboarding without a helmet: &#8220;While I appreciate the value of wearing a ski helmet,&#8221; wrote the governor, &#8220;I am concerned about the continuing and seemingly inexorable transfer [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2011/09/not-every-human-problem-deserves-a-law/">&#8220;Not every human problem deserves a law&#8221;</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A veto message from Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown, after the California legislature passed a bill imposing a fine on children or their parents or guardians for skiing or snowboarding without a helmet: &#8220;While I appreciate the value of wearing a ski helmet,&#8221; wrote the governor, &#8220;I am concerned about the continuing and seemingly inexorable transfer of authority from parents to the state.&#8221; [<a href="http://blogs.kqed.org/capitalnotes/2011/09/07/browns-veto-messages-simple-philosophical/">John Myers, KQED</a>; <a href="http://gov.ca.gov/docs/SB_0105_Veto_Message.pdf">text of veto message</a>]</p>
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		<title>Swiss sledders, skiers seldom sue</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The tree trunks, exposed banks and other hazards whizzing past represent a cornucopia of potential tort suits under U.S. law, yet somehow the Swiss manage to operate these runs without being sued into oblivion.&#8221; Dan Fisher at Forbes has a go at explaining why. More: Bill Childs, TortsProf (many U.S. states relatively protective of winter [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2011/03/swiss-sledders-skiers-seldom-sue/">Swiss sledders, skiers seldom sue</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The tree trunks, exposed banks and other hazards whizzing past represent a cornucopia of potential tort suits under U.S. law, yet somehow the Swiss manage to operate these runs without being sued into oblivion.&#8221; Dan Fisher at Forbes <a href="http://blogs.forbes.com/danielfisher/2011/03/04/dont-try-this-at-home-a-swiss-sled-run-would-send-u-s-lawyers-into-ecstasy/">has a go at explaining why</a>. <strong>More</strong>: <a href="http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/tortsprof/2011/03/skiing-in-the-us-and-switzerland.html">Bill Childs, TortsProf</a> (many U.S. states relatively protective of winter sports providers).</p>
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		<title>Setback for a &#8220;Ladies&#8217; Day&#8221; suit</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Serial suit-filer Alfred Rava wanted to use his lawsuit against Bear Valley Ski Resort over a &#8220;Ladies&#8217; Day&#8221; promotion as the basis for a class action, but a judge ruled that he&#8217;s not entitled to do that, because California&#8217;s Unruh Act already provides for him to get a $4,000 payday with no need to show [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2009/08/setback-for-a-ladies-day-suit/">Setback for a &#8220;Ladies&#8217; Day&#8221; suit</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serial suit-filer Alfred Rava wanted to use his lawsuit against Bear Valley Ski Resort over a &#8220;Ladies&#8217; Day&#8221; promotion as the basis for a class action, but a judge ruled that he&#8217;s not entitled to do that, because California&#8217;s Unruh Act already provides for him to get a $4,000 payday with no need to show injury: </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Assuming plaintiff succeeds on the merits, Bear Valley Ski Resort would be liable for mandatory statutory penalties of $4,000 X 995 putative class members,&#8221; [Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Anthony] Mohr wrote. &#8220;The product of $3,980,000 constitutes a draconian sum that would strip Bear Valley of its assets.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>[<a href="http://legalpad.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/07/yesterday-our-sister-publication-cal-law-had-the-man-bites-dog-story-of-the-consumer-attorneys-of-california-backing-a-tort-r.html">Cal Law "Legal Pad"</a> via <a href="http://www.calbizlit.com/cal_biz_lit/2009/07/trial-court-strikes-blow-for-common-sense-in-antiladies-day-case.html">Cal Biz Lit</a>, <a href="http://legalpad.typepad.com/files/rava-order.pdf">court order</a> in PDF]</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Expert Skier Assumed Risk of Injury, N.Y. Court Finds in Barring Suit&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 23:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Say not that the assumption-of-risk doctrine is defunct: &#8220;As a self-described expert skier with 13 years&#8217; experience, Brian W. Martin, 17, was well aware of the risks associated with rail sliding and had acknowledged falling before while attempting to execute a rail maneuver, an Appellate Division, 3rd Department, panel ruled last week in Martin v. [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2009/05/expert-skier-assumed-risk-of-injury-ny-court-finds-in-barring-suit/">&#8220;Expert Skier Assumed Risk of Injury, N.Y. Court Finds in Barring Suit&#8221;</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say not that the assumption-of-risk doctrine is defunct: &#8220;As a self-described expert skier with 13 years&#8217; experience, Brian W. Martin, 17, was well aware of the risks associated with rail sliding and had acknowledged falling before while attempting to execute a rail maneuver, an Appellate Division, 3rd Department, panel ruled last week in <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/nylj/PubArticleNY.jsp?id=1202430796849">Martin v. State of New York</a>, 505999.&#8221; [<a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/law/careercenter/lawArticleCareerCenter.jsp?id=1202430833517&#038;rss=careercenter">NYLJ</a>]</p>
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		<title>Update: Suit against 8 year old skier settled</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The boy&#8217;s parents, Robb and Susan Swimm of Colorado, have agreed to a $25,000 settlement. (Matthew Heller, On Point News, Jul. 22). Earlier: Dec. 28, Jan. 3. Tweet Tags: Colorado, skiing</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/08/update-suit-against-8-year-old-skier-settled/">Update: Suit against 8 year old skier settled</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The boy&#8217;s parents, Robb and Susan Swimm of Colorado, have agreed to a $25,000 settlement. (Matthew Heller, On Point News, <a href="http://www.onpointnews.com/080722.asp">Jul. 22</a>). Earlier: <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2007/12/sues-8-year-old-over-ski-slope-collision/">Dec. 28</a>, <a href="http://overlawyered.com/2008/01/january-3-roundup/">Jan. 3</a>. </p>
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		<title>Contracts no good in Utah: Rothstein v. Snowbird Corp.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ted Frank</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In a 3-2 decision, the Utah Supreme Court has held a liability waiver unenforceable, and permitted a skier to sue a resort for his injuries in a skiing accident, notwithstanding his agreement to the contrary by disingenuously expanding a state assumption-of-the-risk statute for ski resorts to forbid any contractual modification of liability. When even Utah [...]</p><p><a href="http://overlawyered.com/2007/12/contracts-no-good-in-utah-rothstein-v-snowbird-corp/">Contracts no good in Utah: Rothstein v. Snowbird Corp.</a> is a post from <a href="http://overlawyered.com">Overlawyered - Chronicling the high cost of our legal system</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.utcourts.gov/opinions/supopin/Rothstein121807.pdf">In a 3-2 decision, the Utah Supreme Court has held a liability waiver unenforceable</a>, and permitted a skier to sue a resort for his injuries in a skiing accident, notwithstanding his agreement to the contrary by disingenuously expanding a state assumption-of-the-risk statute for ski resorts to forbid any contractual modification of liability.  When even <em>Utah</em> refuses to honor contracts, you know we&#8217;re in trouble.</p>
<p>Edited to add: For some reason, multiple commenters who haven&#8217;t read the opinion are claiming that the only thing the opinion does is require a signature.  Not so: Rothstein explicitly signed a release, and the release only covered negligence (permitting Rothstein to sue for intentional torts).  Rothstein realized the benefit of the bargain, by getting season tickets for a considerably cheaper price than he would have been able to if the resort knew he wasn&#8217;t going to honor his end of the bargain.  The Utah Supreme Court (not an intermediate appellate court) rewrote the agreement retroactively.  Consumers are hurt.</p>
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