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		<title>Teen commits suicide, 9 classmates charged with felonies</title>
		<link>http://overlawyered.com/2010/03/teen-commits-suicide-9-classmates-charged-with-felonies/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;See if you can figure out how the shock and sorrow of the young girl&#8217;s death got processed into criminal charges against 9 teenagers and whether this reaction is helpful or just.&#8221; [Ann Althouse]
More: there&#8217;s not enough in the article to reach conclusions either way, says Scott Greenfield. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;See if you can figure out how the shock and sorrow of the young girl&#8217;s death got processed into criminal charges against 9 teenagers and whether this reaction is helpful or just.&#8221; [<a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2010/03/15-year-old-girl-kills-herself-and-9-of.html">Ann Althouse</a>]</p>
<p><strong>More</strong>: there&#8217;s not enough in the article to reach conclusions either way, <a href="http://blog.simplejustice.us/2010/03/31/suicide-will-do-that.aspx?ref=rss">says Scott Greenfield</a>. </p>

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		<title>January 5 roundup</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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Other motorist in fatal crash should have been detained after earlier traffic stop, says widow in suit against Kane County, Ill. sheriff&#8217;s office [Chicago Tribune] 
Now with flashing graphic: recap of Demi Moore skinny-thigh Photoshop nastygram flap [Xeni Jardin, BoingBoing, Kennerly]
Blawg Review #245 is hosted by Charon QC; 
Expensive, unproven, and soon on your insurance [...]]]></description>
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<li>Other motorist in fatal crash should have been detained after earlier traffic stop, says widow in suit against Kane County, Ill. sheriff&#8217;s office [<a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-kane-lawsuit-31dec31,0,623103.story">Chicago Tribune</a>] </li>
<li>Now with flashing graphic: recap of Demi Moore skinny-thigh Photoshop nastygram flap [<a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/04/in-case-you-missed-i-1.html">Xeni Jardin, BoingBoing</a>, <a href="http://www.litigationandtrial.com/2009/12/articles/litigation/news/hollywoods-top-lawyer-goes-off-the-rails-threatening-blogger-with-defamation-retraction-letter/">Kennerly</a>]</li>
<li>Blawg Review #245 is <a href="http://charonqc.wordpress.com/2010/01/02/blawg-review-245-2/">hosted by Charon QC</a>; </li>
<li>Expensive, unproven, and soon on your insurance bill? State lawmakers mull mandate for autism therapy coverage [<a href="http://www.ky3.com/news/local/78485577.html">KY3.com, Springfield, Missouri</a>] </li>
<li>&#8220;NBC airs segment on Ford settlement: Lawyers get $25 million, plaintiffs get a coupon&#8221; [<a href="http://1209739777s20721.typepad.com/njlra/2010/01/nbc-airs-segment-on-ford-settlement-lawyers-get-25-million-plaintiffs-get-a-coupon.html">NJLRA</a>]</li>
<li>&#8220;Drawing on emotion&#8221;: high-profile patent plaintiff&#8217;s lawyer Niro writes book on how to win trials [<a href="http://legalblogwatch.typepad.com/legal_blog_watch/2009/12/controversial-lawyer-pens-playbook-for-ip-trials.html">Legal Blog Watch</a>] </li>
<li>&#8220;Virginia Tech faces lawsuit over student&#8217;s suicide&#8221; [<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/08/AR2009120801147.html">AP/WaPo</a>] </li>
<li>Maryland lawmaker&#8217;s Howard-Dean-style candor: &#8220;you take care of your base&#8230; It’s labor and trial lawyers that get Democrats in office&#8221; [<a href="http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/12/14/powerful-influences-in-new-york-and-maryland/">Wood, ShopFloor</a>]</li>
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		<title>&#8220;Expel Students Who Might Kill Themselves?&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://overlawyered.com/2009/12/expel-students-who-might-kill-themselves/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Walter Olson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s in part a pre-emptive defensive gesture by universities anxious not to get sued after suicides, which doesn&#8217;t make it a good idea.  [Sally Satel, Minding the Campus] 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s in part a pre-emptive defensive gesture by universities anxious not to get sued after suicides, which doesn&#8217;t make it a good idea.  [<a href="http://www.mindingthecampus.com/originals/2009/12/expel_students_who_might_kill.html">Sally Satel, Minding the Campus</a>] </p>

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		<title>March 26 roundup</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ted Frank</dc:creator>
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More fen-phen scandals: Possible smoking-gun email in Kentucky case (see Walter&#8217;s post today) came from Chesley firm computer; Vicksburg lawyer first attorney convicted in Mississippi fen-phen scam. [Courier-Journal via Lattman; Clarion-Ledger (h/t S.B.)] (Updated with correct Courier-Journal link.)
Allegheny College found not liable by jury for student&#8217;s suicide; school raised issue of student privacy concerns. Earlier [...]]]></description>
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<li>More fen-phen scandals: Possible smoking-gun email in Kentucky case (see <a href="http://www.overlawyered.com/2007/03/ny_times_on_ky_fenphen_scandal.html">Walter&#8217;s post today</a>) came from Chesley firm computer; Vicksburg lawyer first attorney convicted in Mississippi fen-phen scam. [<a href="http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070326/NEWS01/703260432/1008">Courier-Journal</a> via <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/03/26/spotlight-on-kentuckys-fen-phen-case/">Lattman</a>; <a href="http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070324/NEWS/703240353/0/NEWS">Clarion-Ledger</a> (h/t S.B.)] (Updated with correct Courier-Journal link.)</li>
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<li>New book: Antitrust Consent Decrees in Theory and Practice [<a href="http://www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.25817/pub_detail.asp">Richard Epstein @ AEI</a>]</li>
<li>To be fair, I went to school with &#8220;young Mr Sussman, the boyish charmer&#8221;, and I don&#8217;t know how to pronounce &#8220;calumnies&#8221; either—it&#8217;s one of those words I&#8217;ve only seen written, and never heard spoken [<a href="http://forums.macleans.ca/advansis/?mod=for&amp;act=dip&amp;pid=40297&amp;tid=40297&amp;ref=rss&amp;eid=52">Steyn</a>; <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17758998/">MSNBC</a>]</li>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 13:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ted Frank</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve previously <a href="http://www.overlawyered.com/2004/12/colleges_and_suicide.html">noted</a> that colleges, out of fear from liability over student suicides, have been taking extreme steps to preempt the problem by requiring medical leaves of absence.  George Washington University discovered that avoiding suits from Scylla doesn&#8217;t mean that Charybdis won&#8217;t sue: Jordan Nott has sued the school after being barred from campus after seeking hospitalization for suicidal thoughts.  Liability reform is clearly needed: either schools aren&#8217;t responsible for student suicides, or they aren&#8217;t responsible for the steps they take to prevent such suicides.  (In the famous Elizabeth Shin/MIT case, the parties <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/04/04/parents_strike_settlement_with_mit_in_death_of_daughter/">recently settled</a> after a court ruling expanding schools&#8217; liability in suicide cases, including the possible liability of administrators without mental health credentials.)</p>
<p>Amanda Schaffer, <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2142373/?nav=ais">writing in Slate</a>, argues for a middle ground&mdash;a program based on one at the University of Illinois intervening in the lives of suicidal students without kicking them off campus.  But Schaffer doesn&#8217;t recognize that the middle ground doesn&#8217;t resolve liability issues, including hindsight-based lawsuits for the cases where the middle ground isn&#8217;t successful; even the Illinois program has reduced suicides by only half.  Educational reform can&#8217;t happen without legal reform.</p>

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